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Pfeffer_Prinz OP t1_j5mgpqw wrote

Reply to comment by LeTigron in TIL the first known résumé was written by Leonardo da Vinci, when applying to be a military engineer for the Duke of Milan. It's mainly just a list of his designs for siege weapons (including trebuchets). He briefly mentions his art: "In painting, I can do everything possible." He got the job. by Pfeffer_Prinz

hmmm... the Tallhoffer search had 0 results:

> Your search - "theatre of machine" hans tallhoffer - did not match any documents.

for Kyeser I found Bellifortis, which wikipedia describes as "the first fully illustrated manual of military technology" ... Is that what you meant? it's cool, but it doesn't mention anything about applying for jobs...

Are there any links you can share for what you mean?

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LeTigron t1_j5mhlds wrote

Bellifortis is indeed the theatre of machines of Kyeser. If you didn't find anything on Talhoffer - and I made another mistake, there's only on L - , which seems weird, you can try a video on youtube explaining everything called something like "Talhoffer's weird inventions".

I don't have any ressource at hand in English, unfortunately, but the term isn't that rare, you will find easily.

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Pfeffer_Prinz OP t1_j5mmjjw wrote

are you just talking about military manuals... or about job applications specifically?

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LeTigron t1_j5mn74v wrote

Both. The theatres of machines were resumes.

You publish the book with pictures and small descriptions of what you devised and let it spread around. You take care to not say everything so that, if someone wants something from the book, they can't do it by themselves and have to call you, because you're the only one who know what the drawings in the book miss.

And there, you have a job. That was the normal way for engineers to get jobs during late Middle-Ages, many did so.

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Pfeffer_Prinz OP t1_j5mqrwl wrote

interesting... I guess that's more of "advertising" than an application... like having a website of your work, so people could check it out and then reach out if they need your work.

It makes sense to me that Leonardo's letter would be considered unique from that, since his document was specifically written for someone who was trying to fill a specific position. That's what we still do today with résumés.

of course we also do websites, but that's a separate thing

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LeTigron t1_j5mrca5 wrote

Indeed, in such case I have no previous occurrence in mind.

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