Submitted by Northwoods01 t3_112bs1l in vermont
cpujockey t1_j8jbbbq wrote
Native Vermonters are getting priced out of the state; this is a fact. Native Vermonters are just not on the same playing field as new Vermonters. There are incentives for New Vermonters to move here and work remote, the housing market is priced way out of bounds for nearly any family to live here. The focus of tourism and bringing in outside money has been to the detriment of the local economy and I am glad OP is at least writing about it, and suggesting things even if said things are dog shit.
Perhaps the real solution is to create equity - every remote worker that moves here and receives the benefit should see a tax hike of 1% on their income and property taxes for a min of 5 years. That money should be paid to the Natives or be a benefit to the natives that are having issues of housing security.
Now before anyone calls me racist or xenophobic - my family has real roots here! Not just white anglo roots either. While a good amount of my family is white and culturally french, you cannot ignore the fact that my father's maternal family were descendants of indigenous people. We have just as much rights to here as anyone else, but it would be heart breaking to see yet another descendant of indigenous people being pushed away from their home land wouldn't it? Frankly, that part of my family history is not the reason I champion for the native Vermonter to receive equity - but I ask this because the very culture and heritage of Vermont is at stake. Made in Vermont doesn't mean shit without us, we are Vermont - the good, the bad and even the ugly. Shit our statesman was a redneck who got drunk and rounded up his extended family to publicly whip a judge for invalidating his land grants - that is the very spirit of Vermont in a nutshell.
While most of us have not been welcoming of "flatlanders", we simply need to detox from their money and figure out a better solution for our economy that does NOT involve tourism and affords quality exports made from resources we have here.
headgasketidiot t1_j8jdhht wrote
Out of staters moving here are not displacing native Vermonters. You can trivially debunk this by looking at Vermont's population in the census. From July 2021 to July 2022, Vermont's population increased by less than 100 people. Even the pandemic's migration that VTDigger called an "explosion" (in my opinion, irresponsibly so) was only a .7% population increase. That is absolutely tiny. Before that, we were seeing a net migration out of the state.
Everyone has a story about the house their buddy wanted to buy but some out of stater bought it in all cash sight unseen. Those are investments or vacation homes, not people moving here. It is exceedingly rare for regular families to buy houses in cash sight-unseen. Meanwhile, investors are buying ~25% of all SFH on the market. This is an international phenomenon, affecting people from huge cities like London and Vancouver to our tiny state. As wealth inequality reaches increasingly unsustainable levels, the wealthy, from individual landlords to large investment firms, are looking for more places to deploy their ever-increasing capital, and they are moving more and more of their money into buying property, making housing increasingly unaffordable for regular people.
Rich people, most of which are from out of state, are buying up the entire world's housing, most of which is also out of state. Trying to understand the problem as in-state vs out of state only obscures the reality that we are an inconsequential backwater. Our housing is being devoured by forces way bigger than "flatlanders" with remote jobs.
DaddyBobMN t1_j8je422 wrote
I've been showing this sub data on similar Vermont population topics for a while now and nobody ever believes it. They'd rather run with their narrative.
headgasketidiot t1_j8jf3jx wrote
Same. It's so fucking depressing to see the ruling class trick us all by drawing imaginary lines on maps. We fall for it every fucking time. Normal people start squabbling over who was born on which side of what line, and all while the wealthy exercise perfect class solidarity by pooling resources to buy up our shit and charging us rent to use it.
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cpujockey t1_j8jmizf wrote
not all families are affluent, mine was certainly not.
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