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gcubed680 t1_ivabhls wrote

It’s bristly on Reddit, and can quickly turn sour if you come in to Vermont and want to change it.

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mrbisthebest t1_ivae8cw wrote

Bingo! People (including myself) have come to Vermont because they like what it is and what it stands for, so why move here and try to change it to the place you left??

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gcubed680 t1_ivafkpr wrote

Because you are a rich entitled person who thinks they know better than the locals what’s best for the state. I’m a transplant as well and have had nothing but great experiences with neighbors and locals, but like you said, I respect what Vermont is… it’s why I moved here.

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bigtimesauce t1_ivbrmwi wrote

Is that why I hate it here? Because I’m rich?

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gcubed680 t1_ivby4de wrote

Don’t have to be. You could be young

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bigtimesauce t1_ivby78g wrote

Still kinda young, sure lol

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gcubed680 t1_ivc0igh wrote

Ha, there is a huge gap in this state for opportunities for younger people, probably younger than you, but still there is no reason for grads to stay. I’d say beyond that, there is a gap for most a ages that want a job. It’s really baffling that the state would give money for WFH relocating but don’t seem to seriously invest in bringing business here. I can’t imagine long term health of the state economy that is increasingly built on tourism and the service industry… especially as snowfall goes down and summer heat goes up.

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Jerry_Williams69 t1_ivd1hgi wrote

Vermont has some great public schools, STEM programs, and colleges. I'm an engineer and went through a job hunting cycle here. I finally found a really cool local job that pays great, but 90% of the engineering jobs I have seen pay 25-50% less than the national average. New grad openings in Vermont today tend to pay $10k-$20k less than I made when I graduated in the Midwest in 2008. If a new grad can get past that, the opportunities are few and far between. It seems that Vermont is cranking out some well educated engineers with a lot of potential, but the well paying and interesting jobs they trained for just don't exist here. I think that is a reoccurring theme in other fields as well.

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DistinctPool t1_ix1r4gc wrote

Where do you work if I may ask?

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Jerry_Williams69 t1_ix1rhat wrote

An aerospace supplier. I don't want to say specifically. Company is small and my coworkers could piece together who I am from other comments.

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bigtimesauce t1_ivc3s0u wrote

To be honest my job is the only thing I really like about being here, pays well, very fair work-life balance, lotta perks, but it’s the only one I’ve had in about a decade of living here that I’ve felt that way about, the rest of them have been shit.

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hunny_bun_24 t1_ivakffs wrote

Vermont needs/should change a lot.

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gcubed680 t1_ivalfif wrote

It does, and I actually removed that part of my post. Generally I’ve seen the opposite though, arguing for more restrictive zoning, making it more difficult to build versus making it easier. Lots of nimby arguments for businesses

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Vermonter623 t1_ivauwu2 wrote

I’ll bite. How?

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CheesusCheesus t1_ivayf1e wrote

"It needs to have all of the services in places move from (Boston, NYC, etc). Public transportation across the state, five students perv teacher, etc. The natives are so ignorant when they complain about crippling taxes (so they say!) to fund it all! I make 150% more in salary and pay my fair share (after all of the tax credits and deductions that I deserve of course)."

That is the original problem that dirt poor native Vermonters had with flatlanders in the late 60s and still have.

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ethandavid42 t1_ivbak9z wrote

I don’t know if I want the perv teacher, but I’m a Flatlander too

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Automatic_Guava8777 t1_ivck1dx wrote

But here is the thing, lived in Burlington 20+ years and now it’s not safe at all and sorry it’s getting really run down because people can’t afford it then trash our street. I love Vermont how it’s pretty in the fall but otherwise no growth and too expensive. So glad I moved!

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