Go back to the Meads and what of Chaffee? Burke and Pico birthed many. Let’s not forget Weinbrecht; had a few acquaintances who ski’d with her troupe; nothing those guys and gals could get down quickly and gracefully. For what it’s worth, just wrapped up a stunning 5 days of skiing at Heavenly; love VT, but ski anywhere out west and you’ll love the snow…no ice, but the narrow winding trails of VT can only be found there.