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themagicbong t1_jb4inj8 wrote

Replying to Thoraxekicksazz (#2,171,317)

Looking at other tweets, someone linked a news article. The people we are seeing survived. 4 people in the other helicopter that we didn't really see died, everyone on board as far as I can tell. Tragic. I feel for their families. Happened in Australia.

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BatXDude t1_jb4o2h7 wrote

How did the passenger see it before the pilot?? Wtf, were his eyes painted on?

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Beatrix_-_Kiddo t1_jb4ox2r wrote

Do helicopters ever not crash? Seems like there's a helicopter accident every month these days.

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Woodwardg t1_jb4rtkj wrote

Replying to BatXDude (#2,171,493)

I'm not a pilot, but one would imagine that he has a ton of interfaces in front of him which he's using to maintain speed / trajectory / elevation / what have you. the pilot isn't necessarily concerned with what's going on 360 degrees around him with the naked eye.

why none of those interfaces are capable of warning him that another craft is barreling towards him? that's my question.

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TwiceYourSize t1_jb4vrpf wrote

Replying to Denziloe (#2,171,606)

So what’s the number of accidents per car and what’s the number of accidents per helicopter? You comment seems kinda obvious to me since there are way more cars then helikopters. I bet the chance to survive a car crash is bigger then a helicopter crash tho

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S-Markt t1_jb4vsbo wrote

Replying to Beatrix_-_Kiddo (#2,171,527)

one major problem is that you can do a lot of crazy things with them, but non of those is as simple as it looks. hovering near a powerline for example is risky, chasing cattle in the australian bush too. our airrescue pilots here in hamburg managed to land old hueys on streetcrossings without ever crashing.

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CrashSlow t1_jb4zbns wrote

Replying to ktElwood (#2,171,864)

ADS-B is a catch all term. ADS-B is mostly US thing, ADS-B differs by country and in Canada there is no requirement for it, no idea what oz has for requirements.

There are different levels and kinds of traffic warning system that work off transponders of all kinds. Problem is you have to set the alert range on them. Thats easy in an airplane, just warn if anythings comes within 5miles. If it goes off all the time you reduce the range or end up muting it. They are far from perfect in slow moving aircraft.

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nicethingyoucanthave t1_jb52noo wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,172,000)

What do you think about the guy gently tapping him on his shoulder? Every time I see that, I think that the tap only further distracted the pilot. It drew the pilot's attention to the passenger instead of out the window.

the passenger points at the other aircraft, but the pilot has to turn almost all the way around just to see the finger.

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WeSnawLoL t1_jb59hot wrote

Replying to TwiceYourSize (#2,171,992)

To be fair a huge reason for this is that there are less things in the sky than on a road. A road has more obstacles, some of those obstacles are occupied by complete idiots, while a pilot licenses is expensive and offers a lot of training.

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forum4um t1_jb5ai8b wrote

Absolutely insane that they all survived on one of those. A slow plummet to your death from that high up? Yikes.

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Tdagarim95 t1_jb5jorb wrote

Replying to Beatrix_-_Kiddo (#2,171,527)

Unfortunately, the things helicopters can do outweigh the dangers associated with them. Planes can glide if something goes wrong. But something as little as a loose nut on just the right component in a helicopter immediately kills everyone on board.

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JGCities t1_jb5lbjf wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,172,000)

Based on description of the accident the guy in this copter is probably to blame as he struck the tail rotor of the other copter.

>Less than a minute after take-off, the departing helicopter (registration VH-XKQ)[7] was struck in the tail by an arriving helicopter (registration VH-XH9)

Pretty much a rear end collision. The people in the first copter had no clue what was about to happen.

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whooo_me t1_jb5r320 wrote

Replying to BatXDude (#2,171,493)

According to the report the other helicopter was ascending from underneath- maybe the console partially obscured the pilots view while the passenger in the back could see it more easily?

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heroinsteve t1_jb5ry7e wrote

Replying to higgy87 (#2,171,973)

I mean it’s still disingenuous to compare imo. There is significantly less air traffic than cars have to deal with. A better comparison would be planes and helicopters as they both use air space and are far closer in trips than cars.

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PoxyMusic t1_jb61y7j wrote

Replying to Tdagarim95 (#2,173,001)

Helicopters can glide also, sort of. Autorotation is the way you can still land when you have a complete engine failure in a helicopter. You harvest the remaining energy in the rotor for one last landing.

I guess a crude analogy would be, you immediately put it into neutral, then throw it into reverse at the right moment.

In the best case scenario, it's safer to lose your engine in a helicopter than an airplane, because at least you get to choose your landing area, and you aren't landing with 60 knot forward speed.

IANAP, just an enthusiast so grain of salt.

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rhalf t1_jb6gt7i wrote

There are more helicopters in the sea than boats in the sky.

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IamNICE124 t1_jb6ls6j wrote

Jesus Christ that killed four people in the other helicopter..

Is this something would be identified as both pilots being at fault?

I’m not an expert at all, so I’m not casting judgement on either because I genuinely don’t know, just curious.

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cmilla646 t1_jb6ndpt wrote

I don’t have many irrational fears but colliding helicopters has always been right at the top of the list. It feels like it should be impossible but here we are.

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Cardioth t1_jb7ryg7 wrote

My mates friend died in this accident. :(

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octagonlover_23 t1_jb81wv2 wrote

Replying to IamNICE124 (#2,174,641)

Long time helicopter pilot here (4,000 hours) - I can assure you this was absolutely operator error on both parts. Modern helicopters are equipped with all sorts of sensors for both weather and unnatural objects. That little screen right below the "co-pilot" woman's chin (clearly not a co-pilot but that term just branched from planes) is actually the display for this type of proximity info.

So first case - that should've caught it, but the pilot was being absentminded and checking out the views.

Second, the flight plans for both of these crafts could not possibly have both vehicles in that place at that time, which is the other reason I can tell that this is operator error.

TL;DR, I'm not a heli pilot and I just made all this up

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just_some_sasquatch t1_jbamx5a wrote

Replying to LeastDescription4 (#2,177,464)

Well there are many, but the main one is poor treatment of captured Orcas leading to the deaths and/or horrible injuries of multiple employees. In that respect Sea World is basically the Tiger King of Orcas. You should watch a documentary called Blackfish if you can find it. Supposedly the bad PR from it caused them to stop doing Orca shows and breeding them in captivity.

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