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Feisty_Law_3321 t1_jdhbqus wrote

Reply to comment by df540148 in 10 men shot in 6 separate incidents by Vegetable-Ratio-5857

How many shooting have been at 14/V over the last couple years? I wonder why police refuse to care. It makes me think they want this to happen. It would be so easy to stop it. Would they move somewhere else? I dunno, maybe. Isn’t it worth trying though?

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DeliMcPickles t1_jdhmt2q wrote

What are the easy steps to solve it?

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Feisty_Law_3321 t1_jdi582r wrote

Place a larger-than-necessary police presence (on foot) on that corner. Done.

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DeliMcPickles t1_jdja78c wrote

Ah, okay. So I put 5 cops there around the clock. They're on overtime right? And that's going to be forced overtime I'm thinking. Otherwise I'm taking 5 cars out of service a shift.

You are right that this is will stop the shootings on the southwest corner of 14th and V. But what happens when they move to 14th and W. Do I hold V St and add four cops up there? Or do I move them?

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Feisty_Law_3321 t1_jdjddgg wrote

Glad you managed to figure out the complex logistics of placing cops on a street corner. Now that we’ve gotten that far, to your second point, don’t you think it’s worth trying first and crossing your hypothetical bridge when we hypothetically get to it?

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mikitronz t1_jdjetyk wrote

>don’t you think it’s worth trying first

You don't think the police have tried being where crimes happen?

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DeliMcPickles t1_jdjfje4 wrote

I didn't realize you were serious, sorry. No, its absolutely not worth it. Full Stop.

This method only works if the only goal is to prevent shootings at one corner. I will say it might not work. Some cops have experiences witnessing gunfire from a car or person within 200 feet of them, so not everyone is deterred. But again, this approach is only hopefully deterring this crime at one small location. Then there's the question, what makes this one corner more deserving than entire neighborhoods EOTR?

But saturation is not sustainable, and it doesn't stop the violence usually, it just moves it or maybe hopefully delays it. This is actually more complicated than you think.

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Feisty_Law_3321 t1_jdjsz3l wrote

Sounds like you have it all figured out detective pickles.

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DeliMcPickles t1_jdjuj3d wrote

Oh not at all. But I do know enough to know that easy solutions from people not familiar with the work probably aren't that feasible.

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Feisty_Law_3321 t1_jdjzef3 wrote

Yeah you’re right let’s just stick with the status quo instead of what could be an easy fix for residents who have been absolutely terrorized over the last decade.

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borneoknives t1_jdhrgls wrote

> I wonder why police refuse to care.

because it's a catch and release situation with the prosecutors so why risk your life to put a guy in jail for 10 hours?

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Feisty_Law_3321 t1_jdi5m4j wrote

Yeah that’s one of the reasons I think that they don’t care. Just gonna let them keep shooting each other I guess.

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bubbabubba345 t1_jdhrwb3 wrote

So the police willfully aren’t doing their job? Why do we need more then?

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borneoknives t1_jdhs8xo wrote

ya'll seem to think that MPD street cops are also the MPD major crimes unit. it's extremely complicated and political

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bubbabubba345 t1_jdhzbz6 wrote

didn't the AUSA for DC say recently that the reason most cases get dismissed is because of 1) DC's unaccredited crime lab; 2) bad/unconstitutional police work that's being captured on body cams, among other issues?

Obviously it's a complicated issue, but at the end of the day, you have to be able to prove a crime happened in court...

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