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Throwaway08080909070 t1_jecd98p wrote

Screw acknowledgement, stopping protecting pedophiles. Stop shuffling them around. Stop insisting that they be dealt with internally and START reporting them to law enforcement.

Show, don't tell, you evil bastards.

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autotldr t1_jece3oo wrote

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 80%. (I'm a bot)

> Vatican City - The Catholic Church took a fresh step Thursday in acknowledging abuse endured by Indigenous peoples with the Vatican formally rejecting 15th-century papal edicts that empowered Europeans to colonise non-Christian lands.

> During a trip to Canada last July, Pope Francis faced repeated calls to rescind the so-called Doctrine of Discovery, which was used to justify abuses against Indigenous peoples, mostly in the Americas, who were viewed as inferior.

> In Canada, campaigners drew a direct link between the doctrine and decades of 20th-century abuse of the country's First Nations, Metis and Inuit people at Catholic-run schools - described by Francis as "Genocide".

Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Indigenous^#1 people^#2 Vatican^#3 abuse^#4 Canada^#5

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SacrificialPwn t1_jecg8cw wrote

The Catholic Church has become very progressive recently. It takes a lot of forward thinking to acknowledge that abusing people, based on the land they are from, might be wrong sometimes. With this kind of quick change, I think in the very near future, maybe as soon as 2300, they may acknowledge that it is kinda bad for them to abuse children and women in general./s (just in case)

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GingeContinge t1_jed8yyk wrote

Missed it by thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat much

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redbanjo t1_jeda2rm wrote

So wait, God said it was OK 600 years ago, but now it's not OK? So God changed his mind? Hmmm.

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Eurocorp t1_jedavx1 wrote

Now if only people could focus more on what churches were much more involved in Canada and America's policies. Of course they're more like rich bloated corpses so it's not exactly that viable.

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johnn48 t1_jedb187 wrote

Do you honestly feel that the Papal approval was the reason that the Europeans colonized non-Christian lands. Britain, who colonized Canada, was the largest Empire in the world, yet it’s a Protestant country. They didn’t need the Pope’s approval, in fact they probably said Fk the Pope. The US Supreme Court enshrined the Doctrine of Discovery, and America’s not a Catholic country. It’s simply used as an excuse for taking the land, clearly they don’t believe the Pope has the authority to tell countries what to do or Henry the 8th would still be married.

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nariusone t1_jedbky2 wrote

Now if they come clean with raping kids.

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Wrackandruin t1_jedkhgn wrote

Oh well, there goes the foundational document for every south and central American country.

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Mushroom_Tip t1_jedoo1j wrote

In 600 years maybe they will apologize to the African people for telling them using condoms is evil during the height of the AIDs epidemic and millions of children being born with HIV.

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wabashcanonball t1_jedsrp2 wrote

Centuries of abuse and it keeps coming. Maybe evil comes draped in vestments.

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Ill__Cheetah t1_jedwobb wrote

So are they gonna give all their territorial landholdings in the Americas back to indigenous peoples?

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Polo1985 t1_jee0dja wrote

They still abusing natives all through Latin America. They full of shit acknowledging that now. Fucking bastards! Pests!

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JustHereForTheBacon t1_jee9aib wrote

Replying to Biologyboii (#2,519,697)

They claim it’s the infallible word of god, but they’re always updating it just enough to keep ahead of the pitchforks. Ignorance is a lack of education on something, which is not the case for me here. You should look into it. In the end, if they would leave others alone, or be a non child raping organization, a lot fewer people would care, including me. Know who doesn’t bother me at all? Wiccans. Don’t even know where they are or what they really believe.

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kaosvision t1_jeebipb wrote

This comment section is so toxic. Acknowledgement is a pretty important first step and is required to start the conversation about righting wrongs and moving forward. Having recently visited Berlin, the impact of the acknowledgement and reminders of the atrocities they committed in the holocaust would leave no visitor short on the impression that they really fucked up and will never forget so that it will never happen again. The fact that the church is acknowledging it is the first step to evolving this religion into something that fits the reality of our current times.

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DanTheHammerShultz t1_jeebna0 wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,524,933)

I've studied other religions, as well as attained a bachelors in science. I'm currently studying the philsophers now. You my friend are small minded and bigoted. Have a good day, or a bad one if that's what you seem to prefer.

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rpapafox t1_jeeehtv wrote

> The Catholic Church took a fresh step

It doesn't matter how 'fresh' the step is. After 600 years of allowing and aiding the abuse to fester, the stench is still overwhelming.

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indibidiguidibil t1_jeej152 wrote

Everyone non-native that lives in America should get the f. off the continent. If they really mean it... i'm tired of hearing Americans cry about colonization when they're the final product of that enterprise.

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Blackadder_ t1_jeenv3j wrote

So will those lands be returned to the rightful owners?

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Version-Easy t1_jeesf7v wrote

Replying to SmashBonecrusher (#2,506,842)

to be fair historically the catholic church was fighting for the indigenous communities long before

Pastorale officium in 1537 which excomunicated any one who particiapted in slavery how ever this had to be tonned down due to the spanish king not liking that the weak position of the pope and the last time a spanish army came to italy in 1527 rome got sacked hard , hence Sublimus Dei in 1537

Commissum Nobis in 1638

Pope Innocent XI condemed both the african slave trade and mistreatment of indigenous people

and the many locals like de casas among others who also fought against this to be fair yes other church officials did also actively commit abuses

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Version-Easy t1_jeet4up wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,524,307)

why should the canadian or us government tax the church that means they would have a bigger say the church already dabbles in politics in directly via sermons why on earth would you want to give them more direct influence

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Version-Easy t1_jeetirg wrote

Replying to johnn48 (#2,516,041)

not really even for catholics the conquistadors missions was to spread religion to the savages but when the Pope said in Pastorale officium that any one who participated in indigenous slavery was going to be excomunicated the conquistadors complained to the king of spain

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Version-Easy t1_jef5ujy wrote

Replying to [deleted] (#2,535,348)

it was one of their rules was before any violence was ensued they most first try to convince the natives to become subordinates to the king and church ie becoming good catholics of course the conquistadors were hypocrites as mentioned above because when the pope told them he did not like what they were doing in the name of the church they ignored /complained

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Blamore t1_jef7kz6 wrote

god is having second thoughts?

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SignificantDetail822 t1_jege728 wrote

Don’t wish to offend anyone, however I can’t help thinking even as someone who is not a great Church attender that I have to remember to distinguish between what Christ preached and the mess mankind made of his Church.

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