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medfreak t1_j218eso wrote

Reply to comment by Elipses_ in Jordan king warns of 'red lines' in Jerusalem as Netanyahu returns to office by Pilast

Who is forbidding them? The Western wall is entirely manned by Jewish worshippers. What they want to do is demolish the Aqsa mosque, which is one of the three most holly mosques in Islam, along with Mecca and Medina, for almost 1400 years.

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Elipses_ t1_j219za7 wrote

Hey, I an just going by the article itself, wherein the Jordanian king mentions that Jews being allowed to pray on the Temple Mount is one of the Red Lines.

I see no mention of demolishing the third most holy Muslim site, merely of Jewish prayer at the 1st most holy site in Judaism?

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YairJ t1_j21la7x wrote

> What they want to do is demolish the Aqsa mosque

This libel is over 90 years old.

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Moonshine206 t1_j2328d1 wrote

It may not be the official agenda of the Israeli government for the time being. But many Israelis dream about the day that they do demolish it. The same Israelis that the government of Israel escorts atop the aqsa compound are the ones most excited for such destruction. Sooner or later some of them would try to raze it like in 1969

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frosthowler t1_j235jrh wrote

you need to quit with the moonshine, or otherwise leave /r/worldnews for /r/conspiracy

I can find Americans that want to militarily conquer and annex the whole of Europe, that doesn't mean America or Americans want to conquer Europe.

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Moonshine206 t1_j236c7q wrote

The incoming israeli police and public security minister is non other than ben gvir. Ben gvir used to have pictures of baruch Goldstein hanged around his house like some glorified saint. Go look up who Goldstein is and tell me what moonshine are the Israeli government on

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Ayylmaothoughyaknow t1_j21kjrc wrote

Israel has policing in place at sights disallowing worship for Jews because it makes the hamas and their backers shit their pants, cry, and try to kill same Israelis citizens.

Easier to expect civility from your citizens and ask them to understand they can’t pray there for public safety as an appeasement effort or whatever than to let them go and risk them getting attacked or retaliatory attacks. Even if they shoot down almost all the incoming rockets and one lands with only property damage, and there’s an increase in attacks on civilians but for the most part increased spending and enforcement works, it’s just NOT worth it for praying at a holy site.

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phdthrowaway110 t1_j22tppg wrote

That's a bunch of nonsense. Israel prevents Jews from praying at the temple mount because it's is against rabbinical law. The law is there to appease right wing rabbis, not hamas.

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frosthowler t1_j235ojb wrote

> it's is against rabbinical law.

I don't know where you heard it, but this is wrong. The Temple Mount is a large complex and the school of thought that the Holy of Holies could've been anywhere on it is fringe. There are countless places to worship that are considered safe.

More people think the Dome of the Rock is where the Holy of Holies stood (and that's controversial) than people who think it could've been anywhere. Israeli governments in the past have amplified these voices in order to convince mostly secular Jews who didn't know better to not go to the Temple Mount as tourists. Those who actually might be interested in praying understand the situation.

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YairJ t1_j234h12 wrote

The Jewish religious disagreements are basically about entering certain places on the Mount, prayer has nothing to do with it and it's not Jews who commit or threaten violence in response. The Waqf wouldn't have the run of the place if these rules were enforced.

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YairJ t1_j21n80i wrote

Muslims and other non-Jews are allowed to pray at the Western Wall. That arson attack is often blamed on Jews(as usual) but was not even done by one. Israeli police and the Jordanian Waqf have been preventing Jews from praying on the Temple Mount, bringing religious paraphernalia etc. And you are making excuses.

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