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Et tu, Japan?

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They are part owners of the project.

Shame on Japan for supporting Russia's war crimes.

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So I am sure there is a TON of logistics that I know I am unawares of, BUT in the end it does seem that the result is:

Japan carries Ukrainian blood on their hands by purchasing Russian crude.

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Depends how you frame it, perhaps they're doing it because their people are suffering from the oil prices. There's a certain amount of egoism that you have to accept from a government of a country. Is it wrong for a country to put their citizens' needs ahead of another's?

Honest question. Idk if that's Japan's motivation at the day..

Wankers

Does this conform to the cap?

When Brutus betrayed Ceasar...

Fits

No it does not depend how you frame it. You're talking about motive. Motive is moot to the comment:

> Japan carries Ukrainian blood on their hands by purchasing Russian crude.

All of the above is true no matter why they do it.

I think the comment is inherently a moral condemnation. I mean, they don't literally have blood on their hands. At that point I think the motive is relevant to their actions. I dont see what the point is of saying someone has blood on their hands otherwise.

Cap is above the market price at the moment, so I would assume they will pay less.

To establish collusion.

Japan Set To Import first Crude (etc.) Bloomberg behind paywall.

Okay thanks. I think to conform to the regime your contract outline has to stipulate a capped price even if market price is less for any given shipment. I can't access the article so...

Lmao Japan. You think youre safe from the Russian menace because youre an island nation with no land borders with Russia.

Except you still have to import all your fuel from other countries, who in turn get it from Russia.

Youre still at their mercy, regardless.

So Japan is colluding with the Russians against Ukraine, by buying (necessary) oil from them?

Thus bloodying their hands.

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Japan supports Ukraine in 1000 different ways

Also Japan buys some russian oil

BLOOD IN THEIR HANDS

What? You can literaly SEE Russia from Japan...

No, it's actually because the government alongside some corporations like Mitsubishi had already invested billions in the Sakhalin-2 project. When the invasion started, instead of stopping investments or withdrawing from the project, they've instead chosen to double down by investing more.

Oil price in Japan is fine, there are also a lot of affordable public transports such as bus, trains & high-speed trains (which often corporations cover the cost too).

All of the foreign parties that have invested in the project can totally afford that loss as not only they are massive (Mitsubishi is just that big), they were already aware years before about the potential risk of a sudden loss of their shares so they are prepared for it.

So no, that decision is just a lack of morals & greed. Now that they have affirmed their commitment back in August 2022, they'll have to cooperate, provide technical support, spare parts, etc. which means untouchable by sanctions guaranteeing a tremendous profit for russia (60% of share) on the long term.

Yeah his comment wasn’t very bright. In fact Japan and Russia still have a contested territory from WW2.

Also not at their mercy whatsoever. Japan has a strong and actively growing military. It’s like this guy forgot one of the first major losses by a western military (to a non-western one) was when Japan defeated Russia prior to WWI and annihilated large swathes of the Russian navy.

Not to mention the very very close military alliance Japan has with the United States.

Edit: Russia isn’t exactly the “west” but my point is they were a modernized and fairly massive military at the time. Also I’m not a historian so everyone take this with a grain of salt.

Slow down there, all caps screamer...

Put this on a balance sheet, bottom dollars on help to Ukraine versus genocide-sustaining energy purchases to Muscovy.

It will not be 1000:1 ratio in favour of Ukraine.

Right?

Ok, this is a more interesting take. I didn't know that. Then I'd probably agree with the general sentiment.

The only part I'm not 100% on is about public transport. In my country, the oil shortage isn't a problem because of transport prices but because energy bills have quadrupled (or more even). I think if they ended up getting oil from Russia to lower the prices for average folks, then I wouldn't condemn them.

You can't

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I mean, Ukraine itself makes money off of Russian pipelines that pass through its territory currently WHILE fighting Russia. Japan isn’t as fortunate as places like the u.s who are energy independent. All of east Asia is extremely dependent on oil from the Middle East and Russia. It’s buy oil from totalitarian Russia or totalitarian Saudi Arabia or shut down your country so you don’t buy from bad people which is a non starter.

Rofl what should they do? Buy oil from Azerbaijan like the Europeans are now doing? They’re not genocidal or anything. What about Saudi Arabia? Same thing. There aren’t enough good countries selling oil for global demand and obviously no one wants to deindustrialize and destroy their country to show how moral they are

It was inevitable.

EU, Japan, India, China and maybe more.

We cant survive on US and middle east help alone. Russia has oil. We need it. We need it for best prices which Russia will probably offer.

If people say these countries support Ukrainian war then every Windows or Apple user for past 20 years supported US wars in Middle East. You support the "genocide" in China by having most things in your house made in China. Millions of people who tuned in or turned up to Qutar football supports the treatment of their workers.

List can go on and on. And you know what? I dont care. Because it is my job not to care about these things.

>I mean, Ukraine itself makes money off of Russian pipelines that pass through its territory currently WHILE fighting Russia.

Ukraine would gladly cut those pipelines if the recipients weren't part of the block that helps Ukraine survive.

It's not like Ukraine has much choice in that matter.

Japan does.

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What!!!, what are u thinking japan, are we in this together. Come on!!!

Oil demanding is peaking and there are more than enough places in the world to meet demand, stop being such a pussy!

Not everyone offers it for the same price.

Besides when you know something is NEEDED then you would be stupid to sell it dirt cheap. Besides if Russia offers the best price then you also save a bit on transport since ME is not right next to Japan like Russia is.

Put your morals aside. They have no place in today's world.

Money rules the world. Someone hasn’t heard of that. Apparently a lot of western companies still operate in Russia by operating under a different brand name, not sure how true that is but wouldn’t be surprised.

"Apparently" and "not sure" aren't great sources for such allegations, mate.

Apparently.

People are too poor to be able to afford morals. Gotcha.

They used the same logic when everyone was sucking the d*ck of Nazi Germany. Monsters don't just happen; there are reasons that they are bad.

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Wow set your morals aside? What a dishonorable and empathy void thing to say. You're either an edgy teenager or have a personality disorder.

So what should we do? Declare war on Japan and Germany? Sanction them?

Please tell us beT course of action against these evil countries that want to ease their already difficult situations.

At the $60 per barrel cap right?

If you ever buy any oil you are probably having some blood at your hands

Donate all your money to Ukraine or you don’t have morals. I’m sure you can afford morals.

I’m pretty sure every country is still doing trade with Russia despite the war. Let’s have an all out brawl.

Better than assuming I know better :) I would say what I said if I didn’t read about such allegations

Japan never stopped importing crude oil from russia, majority of it was through pipeline which operated for this entire time.

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Freshly squeezed from the best Russian oligarchs.

A big Free-For-All

Well… shit.