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codydodd t1_j5f09su wrote

Reply to comment by CanadianRaconteur in Kyrgyz Workers With Russian Citizenship Prevented From Leaving Russia, Urged To Fight In Ukraine by -Fuck-You-Charles-

And Russia is forcing them. But to be honest, Ukraine's forces have quite a lot of older volunteers too, but the difference is they volunteered willingly and many of them vets from the now long conflict.

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nekonight t1_j5fke88 wrote

Those old Ukrainian vets aren't being used as cannon fodder but in training roles or leadership positions. And quite often those that aren't allowed to join are instead joining the local territorial defense. Got to remember Ukraine stop mobilization not because of the lack of manpower but the lack of training and equipment for them. In addition the shrinking front line mean they didn't want to pack more people in and make them easier targets. Russia doesn't care about any of those factors.

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codydodd t1_j5fl8t1 wrote

Super important distinctions thanks for this post.

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Hellno-world t1_j5go9bs wrote

Weren't men under 60 prevented from leaving ukraine? Are we sure they're all volunteers?

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codydodd t1_j5ib0c1 wrote

Yes, that was in case of the need for future mobilizations. Unlike Russia, it's quite easy to fact check because Ukraine welcomes tonnes of international corps. Not sure what you are getting at.

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