You keep claiming that PennDOT is deliberately encouraging cyclists to do illegal things in their official publications. That's one hell of a claim to make and you've presented nothing that would convince me that PennDOT is actually doing that.
 
Keep seething about being passed by a cyclist though, because we all know that the actual problem here is that you got big mad about it, not whether or not it's allowed.

> I’m not about to spend the time finding the exact statute

You've sat here crying about it for three days, so I'm assuming you've already put the time in trying to find the exact statute and couldn't. Because it doesn't exist.

That dispute was over filtering.
 
The problem here is that people stuck in their cars see someone moving faster than they are and they get mad over it because it's unfair in their opinion. No more, no less. The arguing over legality is just window dressing for their little baby brains getting mad over being passed.

 
I don't want to get killed in a squeeze crash so I'm going to filter. Cope and seethe.

https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/oakland-motorist-bicyclist-road-rage-attack/

Yeah, the cyclist is the dickhead in this situation.

 
I'll do what it takes to keep myself safe, including filtering. If that makes me a dickhead to some asshole with terminal carbrain, so be it.

And this is the root of the problem. You, and other drivers, think that a cyclist doing something to protect themselves is being a dickhead. Because drivers in this city are selfish assholes who think their commute is a competition they have to "win".

 
Cyclists aren't doing it at you, they're doing it to stay safe. Quit thinking everything is about you.

> Today I learned that sitting at a red light by myself constitutes a traffic jam.

 
Show me where the state defines what a "traffic jam" is. The definition in your head doesn't count.

 

Your entire argument rests on the idea that PennDOT is deliberately telling cyclists to break the law in their official publications. That is an absurd assertion to make.

The term "traffic jam" has no legal meaning, and the manual offers no definition. The manual is clearly referring to instances where cars are stopped.
 
I can tell that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about because you don't understand this. Terms like "traffic jam" are defined in a legal context when they're used in legal documents. What you think is a "traffic jam" is irrelevant.
 

Do you think PennDOT is intentionally telling bicyclists to break the law in their publications or not?

Do you think PennDOT is intentionally telling bicyclists to break the law in their publications or not?

You're crying about a cyclist owning your ass two days ago. 😂😂😭

Your entire argument rests on the idea that PennDOT is deliberately and willfully telling people to do illegal shit in their manuals.
 
You have an assumed natural right to move under your own power in western jurisprudence. That which isn't explicitly banned is permitted. The law doesn't need to explicitly say I can filter on a bicycle; if it isn't banned, it's permitted.
 
You keep pretending to not understand this despite an average twelve year old child in Pennsylvania understanding it.

 
You're so mad about a bicyclist passing you two days ago that you're pissing your time away today, two days later, arguing about it. Get a life.

> Bikes are considered vehicles

Statutes that apply to pedalcycles specifically mention pedalcycles, dingdong.
 
https://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/CT/HTM/75/00.035..HTM
 
Click on those words up there and hit control F, and type "pedalcycles" for an example.
 
I can't believe you're this stupid, so I'm going to assume that you're still mad about being made some cyclist's bitch two days later. Get over it and get a life.

That was before your grandpa had a driver's license.
 
You might as well complain about the coal mines in Shamokin all closing in the 1940s.

Do you really think PennDOT would publish illegal advice in an official publication?

It's just a harebrained idea until it passes, whoops

And that's why you're paying a premium to use it. Convenience / saving time.

And the turnpike is optional. No one's being forced to take it.

~ten years after this passes~

"Wow, why are the roads so fucking bad??!? I pay taxes!!!!"

Ah, so you are playing dumb.
 
Do you really think PennDOT would publish illegal advice in an official publication?

Leave earlier, dumbass. Don't make your laziness someone else's problem.

Just drive safely like you promised you'd do when you got your driver's license and quit whining because someone passed you. You aren't the main character.

Bicycles are not motorcycles, genius. Motorcycle laws don't apply to bicycles. PA statutes that apply to pedalcycles will very specifically say so.

 
If PennDOT says I can filter, I will filter.
 
If you've driven over the speed limit today your argument is disingenuous. You don't actually give a fuck about what the law says, you're just mad someone passed you.
 
Quit acting like your commute is a competition. That sort of behavior gets people killed.

You are supposed to look at the permalinked post from reddit user chuckie512 that explains exactly what part of that publication says cyclists can filter.
 
I'm starting to think that you made this post because you were mad that you were delayed 18 seconds by a cyclist today and you're just playing dumb.

In this very sub, over the course of three weeks, you will see posts saying:

 
A> Speeding is my god-given right as a driver

B> Cyclists need to follow the law

C> Why are cyclists allowed to do this thing that's legal for them to do

 
I truly do not know what the fuck these people want.

It's posted elsewhere in this very thread that you posted and can see all replies to, my man.
 
https://old.reddit.com/r/pittsburgh/comments/11sajlb/what_is_the_rationale_when_bikers_go_to_the_front/jcdof2n/

 
https://www.dot.state.pa.us/public/pubsforms/publications/pub%20380.pdf

 

Your commute is not a competition. Quit acting like it is.

> The incident that prompted this post was a cyclist in Sq. Hill going around me at a red light on a residential street when there was nobody else behind me.

 
And there's nothing wrong with the cyclist doing that.

 
> I then had to drive behind them for a few blocks for no reason. I’m not angry,

 
Okay.
 
Just because there was no one behind you when that cyclist filtered up doesn't mean there wouldn't be anyone pulling up behind sooner or later.
 
Driving is not a competition. You do not have to be first. You do not have to "win". Quit treating it like a competition.