AhbabaOooMaoMao

AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j21upqa wrote

Reply to comment by Joggingmusic in Forgotten Cave by Joggingmusic

The articles addressed this some.

As I understand the area is unlikely to have any of the rock in which caves form as primary structures, such as by dissolution of bedrock minerals in waters, i.e., karst topography, or like lava tube caves. It is likely to have talus caves, which is consistent with those depressions in the hills that the locals call the Colebrook Dinosaur Tracks.

A talus cave is also consistent with the descriptions of smooth surfaces, boulders falling from the ceiling, and a lack of stalactites.

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AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j211ng0 wrote

I'm intrigued. One commenter on one of the links said they found it and it's exactly where it was said to be, but heavily obscured by growth and vines.

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AhbabaOooMaoMao OP t1_j1h2m4x wrote

In the summer the river can slow to a trickle. It's also dotted with oxbows and old impoundments on the river, some side channels, and on tributaries. So there are plenty of places for stuff like leeches and sunfish, or worse, fallfish, to take up.

Be a lot cooler if we restored the natural water course and cleared some of the more swampy parts, as with any river. Less leeches. More trout.

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AhbabaOooMaoMao OP t1_j1h1td4 wrote

I never heard the story of Diana. Please share.

E: I couldn't wait.

The story is of the fair and heartbroken young Diana, who fell or jumped from the high cliffs to her untimely death. Is there a high streamside cliff or falls in CT or New England that doesn't share this mythos? Lover's Leap, Diana's Pool. In fact, looking it up, I see places called Lover's Leap all over the world. I'm intrigued anytime a mythos is shared across cultures, such as great floods or resurrection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lover%27s_Leap

Holy shit, it's everywhere.

And it's Ancient. Even Sappho is said to have leapt to her death over lost love in 570 BC.

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AhbabaOooMaoMao OP t1_j1g9ux8 wrote

Natchaug River, Chaplin, CT. The Still River comes in from MA and becomes the Natchaug. This is the actual lower Diana's Pool, just upstream from the bridge. The real Diana's Pool is just further up and is quite a sight. Check on Google Maps and look at the photos. It looks like it might be such a great place to cliff jump but the torrent of Diana's Pool would certainly sweep you and bash you into the rocks or tangle you in submerged trees and branches. People swim there often. Not supposed to. People drown there often. The cliffs and rocks are impressive and struck me at first as out of place for CT. Not far downstream after is the confluence with the Willimantic River, where it becomes the Shetucket River, and eventually the Thames.

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AhbabaOooMaoMao t1_j1e05dd wrote

>I don’t get your first sentence.

You said those social worker programs don't last because they run out of staff and money. I'm saying it's time for police to be deprived of staff and money. The social workers are the jobs we need to retain, not the police.

>Cops can’t do anything if they can’t find the person. And they also can only do what they’re legally compelled/trained to, or have resources for. Which is highly likely they didn’t have the training of a social worker or psychologist, and is also highly likely that there was no staffing or on call system in place at the time. We have both and still usually our only options are to clear the scene, pass along hotlines or to commit.

Buddy, it's like you're getting right up to the edge of the point and then missing it completely.

If this mother had called the police and said he may be involved in carrying drugs across state lines, how would this have ended differently?

That's the problem. They would have sent the fucking SWAT team with virtually unlimited budgets for military equipment and training and would have stopped the kid cold.

>Six figure cops are far from the norm in almost every regard. When they exist it’s because of overtime/details funded usually by things like traffic grant or private companies. It also requires hundreds/ thousands of hours extra work. Not just forty hours a week.

They exist in every town and especially with the state, where it hurts everyone the most.

>I would like to see your sources for that. For us it’s simply not the case, even based off of the first few articles in google.FBI reports no increase in violent crime from 2021, however there was an increase from 2010 to 2020, and there has been no statistically significant decrease sense.

My source for crime being down is the state police's own numbers for 2021.

>Locally that is simply not the case for major crimes. Hartford has had an increase in murders. Waterbury has had an increase in murders and shootings just to name a few.

Yes, it was like a 20% jump in Hartford in 2021 from there being so few in 2020 and there being two additional murders in year 2021.

>Property crime is on the rise nationally.

Great. The category of crime police are least likely to solve is up (unless we're talking about retail theft, in which case you send the SWAT team right out again (if they aren't too busy directing traffic in full kit)). Again, right up to the point and then completely miss.

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