Haha word.

100% blew up Alderaan !

Price is indeed rather steep lol

For that price, they should have a perfect-target-curve FR and other quantifiables, with no customization required to peak.

Please everyone, post here when you find your first reputable source for a FR graph on these ! Thanks !

These look like a combination of:

Sci-Fi weapon

Audio Technica ATH-ADX5000

AKG K812

Can’t wait to see their FR charts !

GORGEOUS !

My father’s DT250, and my T-90 and 1990 are tanks. Also have a colleague whose 990 is a tank, used daily for professional work.

My father had some DT250’s since before I was born and they’re still working perfectly.

BeyerDynamic ain’t fixing what ain’t broken. Look what happened to Sennheiser & AKG now ? They got bought out and are now a hollow shell of their former greatness.

BeyerDynamic is still standing on their own two feet, making the most durable studio headphones in history, that have dependable, sensibly bright for studio work, extremely accurate and representative frequency responses across their entire professional range.

Sennheiser & AKG brands both went downhill fast the last five years.

The HD800s & K812 will probably be their last two truly great flagship offerings.

R.I.P. truly innovative Senn & AKG flagships 🥲

HD650 is also a very good headphone. But I feel the FR of the HD600 is more universal, and more timeless across all genres.

HD650 is the FR for people who prefer more bass, and sensitive to 1k-3k, slight changes, but to me, for reference purposes across all genres, the HD600 is the superior FR, especially the rising slope from 1-3k

You misunderstood my assertion.

I meant no more innovation from the big buy outs…. Senn & AKG haven’t made any significantly great steps forward since their buyouts.

Lol

No I mean the companies themselves are husks of what they used to be.

Not that the most recent, cheaply made Senn/AKG stuff is that bad, it’s still pretty decent, but a huge step down in QUALITY and INNOVATION from just a decade ago. Less of the former and NONE of the latter.

HD600 will always be a great headphone. It has one of the few truly classic FR, and a classic design.

Ditto

2013-2017 was peak open back headphone. Many of the best big engineering leaders folded or got bought out.

Sennheiser and AKG are husks filled with styrofoam now. The HD800s and AKG K812 were the final peak offerings from both of them.

Most of the newer high end stuff is very hobbyist-designed/not as impressive. Focal shows tremendous promise though.

Yes; the driver’s initial output, coupled with the housing design, acoustic fabrics/materials, and swappable parts like different earpads … all contribute to the FR of any headphone. Some better manufacturers include multiple earpad variations in the box, to adapt the FR depending on each user’s desired sound signature…

FR is by far the most important aspect of a headphone, and “fixing” FR with digital EQ, even if the fixing occurs at 192khz, which almost no consumer offerings could dream of doing, is not the best solution.

Ok well a small step is better than no step !

256kbps most likely. It’ll only be a few more seasons until we get CD quality 1411kbps on cordless headphones.

How many KBPS is it ?

I never owned a pair, but I didn’t get to Demo them until around 2015, at which point, I had already owned an AKG K701, an AKG/MassDrop K7XX triple black first edition, and an Austrian-made, early-run AKG K812 Pro.

They’re pretty impressive, but I had already been using the K812 Pro for a while, and the K1000 is not as impressive as the K812Pro.

AKG K-1000 enters the chat

with a hatchet