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Bierculles t1_j63hf3t wrote
Reply to Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
This is a fate that will be a reality for any job that can be done on a PC within the next 10 years, so unless your alternative is something like plumber, it only delayes your fate and does not prevent it.
Also, artists will still be needed, no matter how good an AI is, it can't produce something good if you have no clue what "good art" even is. Or if you need something very specific from the AI, you need to be able to ask the right questions, it's like when a client who knows nothing about art tries to comission an artist, no matter how good the artist is, if the input from the client is incoherrent garbage, he will never get what he wants and this is a more fundamental problem of information, AI cannot fix this unless it can literaly look inside your head.
Competition within the field will be pretty brutal though, AI will majorly speed up the workflow of almost every artist, so a lot less artists will be needed in total unless the market scales accordingly, which i doubt will happen. AI will displace a lot of jobs but it wont completely replace them in many cases.
In short, this will be a problem you will face in your life no matter what you do, just pray our governments don't fuck it up to badly so might as well do what you want.
Bierculles t1_j631au4 wrote
Reply to comment by trafalgar28 in Is Our Digital Future At Risk Because Of The Gen Z Skills Gap? by trafalgar28
your not wrong, but just expecting later generations to do twice the work than the previous generation just to get hired somewhere is clearly not working out as we can see with the shortage in skilled staff. Yes, we have access to a lot of information, but there are many things the vast majority of people simply can't learn on their own in a reasonable timeframe. Just telling peoplt to git gud is clearly not the solution, we need to rethink how we teach people for fields like that.
Bierculles t1_j62whbf wrote
This is partly on the corporations themselfes, everyone wants to hire the experts, but no one wants to train them. Quantum computing, cybersecurity and AI barely have a field of study or any university courses, or at least not on a level where it would be relevant for companies that pioneer those fields. There isn't a skillgap, there is a gap in the willingness to train people in those fields because it costs a lot of money.
You can't really teach a lot of this stuff at universities because by the time you finish your degree, the stuff you learned is allready mostly obsolete. For comparison, a degree in computerscience specialized in AI you finished in 2016 is absolutely and completely worthless now in the current AI industry, none of the stuff you learned has even a bit of relevancy anymore.
This is also caused by the ever accelerating pace of scientific progress. For example in AI, there are no experts outside of the teams that actually work on projects like GPT-4 or whatever google is doing. Anyone and everyone who actually knows their stuff works for the AI companies. those who do not have mostly outdated knowledge because a knowledge gap of just two years is gargantuan in that field.
This are just my two cents though, so take it with a grain of salt. My only real source for this is the internet and a friend who works in cybersecurity. He told me one of the biggest issues they have is, if he wrote a book on cybersecurity and how to truly secure a server, 6 months after it got published, most of the information would be obsolete because people would have found ways around it or found holes in systems that were considered secure by the time the book was written. Training someone the conventional way in cybersecurity would be like showing up in Ukraine now with WW2 tanks after he finished his degree. Even with a degree they will still need years of training in the specific field they want to work in. i'm not saying degrees are useless in those fields, they are just the starting point and training someone with a masters degree for 5 years before he even becomes actualy usefull is pretty expensive, an expense a lot of companies do not want to make, they want to hire the pros from other companies that have already been in the field for years because it's cheaper.
It's the common problem of entry level jobs need 5 years of experience. Some fields are hit pretty fucking hard by this problem.
TL:DR: Everyone wants to hire skilled personel, nobody wants to train skilled personel.
Bierculles t1_j62n7ob wrote
Reply to If given the chance in your life time, will join a theoretical transhumanist hive mind? by YobaiYamete
I've seen how miserable and petty the average person can be. I think i'll pass.
Bierculles t1_j552w4t wrote
Sadly it's most likely going to be a shitshow, most of our politicans still think the internet is a new fad that will go away soon and that fax machines are the height of technology. Governments also tend to be purely reactionary and slow while AI will come comparatively fast. I'm certain we will see mass riots long before most governments will do a single thing.
Bierculles t1_j552nwl wrote
Reply to comment by Fuzzers in UBI before riots, possible or a worthless pursuit? by nitebear
you face another problem with job displacement, even if you move all the people into new jobs, by the time you have reeducated them, AI probably can do that job too.
Bierculles t1_j4zljal wrote
Reply to comment by thebenshapirobot in AI doomers everywhere on youtube by Ashamed-Asparagus-93
good bot
Bierculles t1_j4zlbw3 wrote
Reply to comment by Helloscottykitty in AI doomers everywhere on youtube by Ashamed-Asparagus-93
Oh god, i also constantly get those stupid Ben Shapiro videos, it's just painfull but no matter how often i markt hem as not interrested, they allways show up again.
Bierculles t1_j4zl7he wrote
Reply to comment by onyxengine in AI doomers everywhere on youtube by Ashamed-Asparagus-93
You are way too optimistic, as allways, our governments will be hillariously unprepared. Get ready for a mountain of baindaid fixes before anythign is done to actually tackle the problem.
Bierculles t1_j4zjrfg wrote
Reply to comment by Yomiel94 in AI doomers everywhere on youtube by Ashamed-Asparagus-93
That is why it's called the singularity, it's impossible to predict what hapens after the singularity started, it truly is an event horizon on the time axis that we can't even see.
Bierculles t1_j4zj7h1 wrote
Reply to comment by Yomiel94 in OpenAI's CEO Sam Altman won't tell you when they reach AGI, and they're closer than he wants to let on: A procrastinator's deep dive by Magicdinmyasshole
It's a proto AGI, an AI that can communicate on a human level, it is still far away from beeing able to do everything a human can, i think at least, maybe i'm wrong.
Bierculles t1_j3qswfv wrote
Reply to Do you think in the 2030s it will be common for most households to have a 3D printer? by BeginningInfluence55
No, the use for 3D printers is pretty specific and unless you need it for work, DIY stuff or tabletop minis, there is just no point in buying a 3D printer. Unlike what many people believe, a 3D printer is not a do all production machine, they are immensly usefull but in the grand scheme of things they are not much diffrent from the plethora of other production machinery besides having a cheap entrypoint.
The biggest point against it really is that you just have no real use for a 3D printer in an average household.
Bierculles t1_j3qsqgk wrote
Reply to comment by Ahaigh9877 in Do you think in the 2030s it will be common for most households to have a 3D printer? by BeginningInfluence55
no
Bierculles t1_j3qsp0t wrote
Reply to comment by enkae7317 in Do you think in the 2030s it will be common for most households to have a 3D printer? by BeginningInfluence55
3D printers allready have great industrial uses, they are immensly usefull in every engineering office and i can hardly imagine now not having one
Bierculles t1_j3qsikh wrote
Reply to comment by keefemotif in Do you think in the 2030s it will be common for most households to have a 3D printer? by BeginningInfluence55
A lot of printshops allready do that, my local printshop has an FDM printer you can use for a fee.
Bierculles t1_iy830wg wrote
Reply to comment by datwunkid in How should the society - right now - adapt to the AI boom? by reviedox
Just imagine a single AI making highly optimized scam calls in the thousands every day.
Bierculles t1_iy06c6y wrote
Reply to comment by LeadingSeveral194 in Combining game theory with AI, Meta's Cicero was able to outsmart 90% of human players of the strategy game Diplomacy. Game theory models many forms of group human behavior, especially in politics and economics, where this AI will have many applications. by lughnasadh
I feel you, imagine playing civ and actually using diplomacy instead of praying that the AI does not do something incredibly retarded again.
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Reply to Combining game theory with AI, Meta's Cicero was able to outsmart 90% of human players of the strategy game Diplomacy. Game theory models many forms of group human behavior, especially in politics and economics, where this AI will have many applications. by lughnasadh
I want an AI like that in 4x games like Civilization. If you tune it to a certain skill level we could have single player strategy games with real diplomacy.
Bierculles t1_iuv7jds wrote
Reply to comment by Ivan_The_8th in Robots That Write Their Own Code by kegzilla
The AI revolution will be the collapse
Bierculles t1_it68gq1 wrote
Reply to comment by SgathTriallair in If you believe you can think exponentially, you might be wrong. Transformative AI is here, and it is going to radically change the world before the Singularity, and before AGI. by AdditionalPizza
Githubs copilote boosted the productivity of the programmers who use it by 55% allready. That is a prime example of an AI beeing used commercially, and not just for vanity but actualy productivity. Other fields will take a lot longer though, mostly because of stuffy management and a strong "never change anything" mentality a lot of workers have. But i think this will sort itself out rather fast as companies that do not quickly adapt to AI will be left in the dust.
Bierculles t1_it67oy6 wrote
Reply to If you believe you can think exponentially, you might be wrong. Transformative AI is here, and it is going to radically change the world before the Singularity, and before AGI. by AdditionalPizza
Just so you know the thing with programmers beeing 10% more effective, we are actually way past that allready. Google reported that programmers that use Githubs copilote that is based on the codex AI are 55% more productive than their peers who don't. A single AI boosted productivity by over 50%, that is quite frankly completely insane.
And codex will get a lot better over the next few years I asume, probably even months. I can absolutely see this happen by 2025. Probably not the singularity or AGI, but a massive shift with the narrow AI we allready have alone.
Bierculles t1_iswuths wrote
Reply to comment by kmtrp in Talked to people minimizing/negating potential AI impact in their field? eg: artists, coders... by kmtrp
Is it enough data though?
Bierculles t1_isscdwr wrote
Reply to comment by GhostInTheNight03 in A new AI model can accurately predict human response to novel drug compounds by Dr_Singularity
I think he meant market, as in selling those drugs.
Bierculles t1_isscb73 wrote
Reply to comment by Desperate_Donut8582 in Talked to people minimizing/negating potential AI impact in their field? eg: artists, coders... by kmtrp
Maybe he just walks around and disses people.
Bierculles t1_j63jsq7 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
Well, the job of an artist is more than just creating waifus in a square canvas or landing pages for company websites. Someone needs to do all the CGI on movies or create textures and models for videogames and in many cases you want something very specific and not just a rough approximation from an AI, so you need someone who knows exactly what it needs to ask the AI to get what you want and they need to have an eye for what looks shit and what does not. Artists are the perfect people for this.
This is an issue that will be a problem in every single field unless you let AI take full controll, but that is still pretty far off and would need an AI that governs an entire industry on it's own and at that point, everyone is unemploeyd anyways.
So if you want my honest oppinion, become a plumber or bricklayer, those will be the last jobs that will be replaced. Governments need to reform how our society works at some point in the future anways, so the only question is if your job is made obsolete before or after we reform our economic system, aka before or after you get thrown on the streets and become homeless. Artists were allready in a rough spot so I would say from a purely financial standpoint, becoming an artist now is a pretty bad idea, most likely, nobody knows what the future really holds.