I agree. She is very good on it. That's the second Deltron3030 album though isn't it? Event 2?

Wait, are you saying that she is good in that, or she isn't?

Yeah, and for a brief period of time, she was supposed to be in the Obi-Wan show too. I think they might actually love working together. Good for them!

My bad! I read too quickly and I thought you said they have it gated except for major events. (ie your first sentence was "it is mostly gated" and I skimmed after that.) I guess I could see that they would have more than enough resources to shut down access to campus for major events. That does make total sense.

Thanks for clarifying!!

Hmmm, I swear I walked through Harvard's campus in Cambridge in 2006 when I visited my friend in Boston, but if you say so, sure.

EDIT: I just googled it and Harvard is spread across three distinct campuses across Boston and has 15 museums that claim to be open to the public and they have a self-guided tour that you can activate online as your peruse their Cambridge campus.

I swear you guys are mistaking the tiniest parts of these massive universities' "campuses" as their entire campus... it's a little silly.

It totally does make sense for some campuses in rougher parts of some cities to do this. I didn't know that any did, but now that you share it, and I have clicked into your link, I can see how it makes perfect sense for some schools. Thank you for sharing your experience. It's cool that we both got to learn something today.

Okay then no. That's not remotely common.

You think a university of ~50,000 students like University of Michigan can hire 4,000+ security guards to stand at all entrances at all hours of the day???

And it certainly isn't common at smaller private schools like my alma mater or Sarah Lawrence (both of which have student bodies around 1500).

...so are you just talking about swiping an ID card to enter a building??? Because that is pretty clearly not what the rest of us are talking about.

Yes, obviously needing ID cards to access certain buildings is common. (And I bet that even on the campuses you've talked about, there are certain buildings that certain times of day require no ID to access... eg the student union building or the administration offices).

You said TWO examples. Out of 4,300 colleges in the country. TWO. And yet you claim that, let me quote you:

>Almost all campuses are gated…what?

...and your evidence... so far, is TWO. Out of 4,300.

Which other colleges have you been to that have this? Since you have been to so many that do. I really believe you that some do, but there's just no way that it's the norm. No way. I have been to schools in huge cities, tiny towns, mid-sized cities. It just isn't practical to gate a massive school and direct all traffic through an individual gate. Most college campuses are bustling hubs of activity, with people coming and going all day long. It just doesn't make logistical sense to throttle traffic at a gate around the entire thing (rather than, for instance, having card readers on individual doors on individual buildings).

I am sure that there are some exceptions. Interesting to learn about GCU, thanks!

Yes. Columbia isn't gated. Cooper Union isn't gated. NYU isn't gated. The New School isn't gated. Hell even a lot of the high schools in NYC aren't gated.

It's not an East Coast thing. I went to school in Massachusetts, and interviewed at schools in Maine and New Hampshire. Visited friends at Dartmouth, Brown, George Washington, American. Went to sports competitions at Whitman, Reed, Pacific, Gonzaga, Stanford (on the west coast). None of them are gated. Gating an entire college campus would make no fucking sense (except maybe in very rare exceptions). You seem to not understand how large many colleges and universities are.

Can you show some pictures or provide some examples or evidences of schools that are fully gated?

> if not off campus then the campus isn’t really a closed campus. More like an area in the neighborhood that owns a lot of property. No gates.

...what college campus has gates? I am not saying that there are zero that fully gate their property, but I have never seen this at a college. I really think you are thinking of private high schools and preparatory schools.

There are a million reasons why it wouldn't make sense to try to gate off an entire college campus:

-Colleges host regular events for the community: sporting events, plays, traveling speakers, concerts. People have to be able to come and go as a variety of events are taking place all day long all across campus.

-Delivery drivers need to be able to reach dorms.

-You have visiting alumni and prospective students or teachers showing up all year-round.

-Staff that can number in the tens of thousands.

-Many students have cars, and unlike private schools or prep schools, they need to be able to come and go whenever they want.

-Many colleges have shuttles that ferry students around campus or off-campus to certain places.

-You frequently have unrelated, third-party businesses in the middle of campuses: think Subway, pizza places, coffee shops, art galleries, book stores.

-On top of all of that, a lot of college campuses (like my two alma maters for instance) are growing fast. New buildings being built, purchased or repurposed almost every year. You think they would want to totally relocate a giant fence a few times a year?

It just makes no sense for college campuses to be fully gated off... and I have never personally seen one that was.

Yeah, I am picturing something out of John Wick. He is just walking off the field one day when one by one these ten assassins run up to him and try to kill him with guns, swords, knives, and bolo ties. One by one he defeats them.

A night security guard walks up to him, looks around at the unconscious bodies and asks, "uhhh, hey David. Working again?" "No. I'm just sorting some stuff out. Noise complaint?" "Yeah. Uh, noise complaint. Well, you have a good night, David." "Good night, Cedric. Tell the wife I said hi."

> "There's a reason why raccoons aren't kept as pets. They're violent assholes that will destroy everything you love."

And thus the pitch for Rocket Raccoon was born!!!

She is so fucking funny. Can't wait to see what she does next!

Well, they'll still need our bodies to drive around like mechs using our hair, so we'll be okay.