So you're just gonna strip the entire bit where you say "be nicer to women and everything's gonna be better!", and the "maybe if they weren't supportive of the patriarchy they'd stop suffering!", as if it's not the entire reason I challenged your take in the first place? Heavily implying that the people who suffer, kill themselves, or express their frustrations in some way are actually just bad people (of course this will be a "leap" in logic for you, even if it's the logical next step). Then you had that weird bit about homophobia as if homosexuals aren't in even bigger danger of self-harm, carefully exposing the internet bubble you apparently live in, possibly due to being banished from Earth a few thousand years ago.

> The ideas Patriarchy instills in men harms men full stop.

Guys, it's the patriarchy, but it just happens to be that the line between the suffering and the beneficiaries can be drawn at an economical class level better than at a sex level.

You don't understand why these young men suffer. You don't understand (or care) why they're in pain and most of all you're concerned with your own goals. Ironically, this it the same level of compassion they get in their daily lives, and why they suffer in the first place.

No, I think that guy is trying to sell books, and doesn't care either. I'm challenging your specific comment, and never even implied I agree with the original post.

Thankfully, a demon waving the red or blue flag doesn't blind me to them being a demon, desperate to feast on my blood.

So true bestie, we will not work on the issues such as suicide, and focus on your rhetoric, which is "stop being a misogynist and I get to decide what that is". Which will: get us nowhere, do the opposite of saving lives (but I can tell you've managed to abstract such petty things).

I'm glad I get to get some fresh air and see some real people later tonight, the internet is exhausting and I can easily see how it drives people into insanity.

"It's all your fault lol".

> Yea actually. Basically it comes down to asking yourself why you believe the things you believe

The absolute fucking demon that you are who thinks only people that believe certain things struggle, and end up with mental health issues and suicide.

Turns out all men's issues are actually just us being bad and not treating women correctly! Thank you! Why didn't anyone else think of this