>Just look at the Hawaiians begging people not to visit.

If it wasn't for tourism, Hawai'i would've spent the last 50 years impoverished like modern-day Puerto Rico, following the sugar collapse in the 1970s.

I don't see Hawai'ians complaining that they have public schools, or hospitals, or any of the other services that tourist dollars affords them. Tourists dump $18 billion cash into Hawai'i every year (except during Covid, obviously) - that's a lot more than Hawai'ians are putting back into slots at the Cal in downtown Vegas, it's quite the trade imbalance.

It's like the anti-tourism folks don't see the connection between this:

>“I think that it is too easy for people to visit places like Hawaii,” (Kyle Kajihiro, a lecturer at the University of Hawaii at Mānoa) said.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/18/us/hawaii-tourism-impact-united-shades-cec/index.html

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and this (all during Covid, when Hawai'ian tourism was massively reduced):

• Legislature cuts University of Hawaii-Manoa’s operating budget by nearly 14%
• Hawaii’s Budget Relies on Federal Relief Funds to Avoid Cuts
• The Battered State Budget Will Dominate The Next Hawaii Legislature: With money tight, lawmakers are looking to the Biden administration and Congress to help shore up a huge deficit as the 2021 session opens this week.
• Hawaii teachers union says layoffs still loom even with $123M less in cuts
• Hawaiian Airlines may lay off more than 800 employees
• Reduced hours, layoffs and furloughs resume in Hawaii tourism as federal safety net disappears
• Hawaiian Hilton Workers Fear Permanent Layoffs As Recall Rights Expiration Nears
• United Laundry Services to lay off over 800 workers
• Union: Hundreds of Hawaii airport workers to be laid off
• Under New Leadership, HART Purges Nearly Half Its Staff

If tourism is so bad for Hawai'i, why were they begging for money from haoles like Biden as soon as Covid cut off their tourism revenue? Could it be that ~20% of the state's entire GDP actually pays for some important things?

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source: mainlander with family in the islands who's sick of their constant monku monku monku about it

You'll be fine. If you're self-aware enough to be worried about being an asshole tourist, you're probably not one.

Often, the state's response is that they can't do anything until the person poses an imminent threat to the physical safety of themselves or others.

And the gap between "poses an imminent threat" and "has committed a crime" is extremely narrow. By the time the former is recognized, the latter has often occurred. And that's what brings the police response.

There's been attempts to expand the scope of "pre-threat" intervention (eg, CA's new CARE law, Ricky's Law in WA), but they face stiff opposition by civil libertarian groups like the ACLU.

• State of CA: Community Assistance, Recovery & Empowerment Act

• ACLU California: WHY WE VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE THE GOVERNOR’S “CARE COURT” PROPOSAL — AND SO SHOULD YOU

• State of WA: Ricky’s Law: Involuntary Treatment Act

• ACLU Washington: Infringement of personal liberty within the civil commitment system

Thanks, Carolyn Bryant.

You have to be pretty careful with that. The Shah's attempts to secularize Iran are part of what caused the Islamic Revolution in the first place.

The Shah gave women the right to vote, divorce, run for public office, and own property, eliminated polygamy, legalized abortion, and raised the age of marriage for women to 18. Labor laws were revised to prohibit sex discrimination and ensure equal pay for equal work. The Islamists didn't like that.

>The White Revolution consisted of 19 elements that were introduced over a period of 16 years, with the first 6 introduced on January 9, 1963,[8] and put to a national referendum on January 26, 1963.
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>Extending the Right to Vote to Women, who previously did not enjoy this right.[9] This measure was criticized by some of the clergy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Revolution

The Shah refused to genocide the Baha'i religious minority, which had long been hated and persecuted by Shia Islamists. The Islamists didn't like that.

>You could definitely say that there was a collation between Shah and the Shia Marja, i.e. Ayatollah Borujerdi. We have documents on this. Ayatollah Borujerdi had issued a message to the shah, saying that “we worked with you (ie. the shah and the monarchy) to bring down Mossadegh and crack down on the communist party and now expect you to work with us to crackdown on the Baha’is, who are a great enemy of Islam.” As much as I know, the shah did collaborate with them.
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>Later, when things were heightened and it wasn't only about closing down the Baha’i center in Tehran, and when harassing and killing Baha’is spread to villages in Yazd, Isfahan, Najafabad and beyond, the Pahlavi government, perhaps under pressure from foreign representatives, changed its position. This is why the bill that was in the parliament and aimed to expropriate Baha’i property was suddenly dropped. The government basically found out the grave consequences of this policy.

https://iranwire.com/en/features/64797/

The Shah enacted land reforms, consisting of taking some lands from wealthy clerics and re-distributing it to the poor (the equivalent of taxing religious institutions). The Islamists didn't like that.

>The first step in land reform started in the early 1950s. The Shah gave over 500,000 hectares of land to about 30,000 homeless families.[1] Before the land reform, 70% of the arable land was owned1 by a small elite of large landowners or religious foundations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Land_Reform

The Shah allowed non-Muslims and women to hold public office. The Islamists didn't like that.

>Khomeini also attacked provisions of the reforms that would allow members of Iran's non-Muslim minority to be elected or appointed to local offices:
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>"I have repeatedly pointed out that the government has evil intentions and is opposed to the ordinances of Islam. ... The Ministry of Justice has made clear its opposition to the ordinances of Islam by various measures like the abolition of the requirement that judges be Muslim and male; henceforth, Jews, Christians, and the enemies of Islam and the Muslims are to decide on affairs concerning the honor and person of the Muslims."[21]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Revolution

Fast forward to 1979, and the Islamists have taken over the whole damn country and instituted a full-blown theocracy. The Shah has fled into exile, his secular reforms will be quickly reversed, and Iran will remain a theocracy for 43 years and counting.

So there's a lesson in there about not trying to secularize everything too quickly, or else you'll invite resistance and revolution - ie, the people you're trying to marginalize and subjugate are going to fight back if they figure out what you're trying to do to them. It's like how if you throw a frog into boiling water, it'll jump out. You have to put the frog into regular-temperature water and turn the heat up slowly.

That's the most effective way to take over. It's why the military industrial complex is successful - they spent decades taking over the US government. Smedley Butler mentioned it way back in 1935, and Eisenhower mentioned it in 1961 - so that gives you an idea of how long they've been working at it.

They didn't just barge in one day like a bunch of morons in red hats and buffalo-horned helmets, and try to take control of the government in a day by shitting on Congress' desks. No, they spent years patiently intertwining their interests with that of the government until nobody could tell them apart - until "what's good for GM" became synonymous with "what's good for the country."

Damn wasteful drug dealers, spending all their money on avocado meth instead of saving it!

Seeing as the girls are still alive, Iran is probably investigating why their poisons weren't more effective.

One of the sides (Hamas) didn't even show up, and criticized the PA for talking to Israel.

Universities too. Nothing says "non-profit" like Alabama and USC selling $75 football jerseys and $15 beers at a concession stand, during games which CBS and ESPN pay them billions to broadcast, and whose coaches are the highest paid "educators" in the state.

Sensitive topics like "Are hot dogs and burritos sandwiches?" and "Is it a grilled cheese or a melt if it has meat?" definitely need their own private area.

Our future? America's present already has crypto and other financial scams that dwarf this penny-ante Russian stuff.

If Enron or Bernie Madoff had only stolen $700 million, you'd never even have heard of them. Enron stole $74 billion, and Madoff stole $65 billion. The Savings & Loan scandal took Americans for $160 billion, and that was way back in the 80s.

Russia wishes they were at our level of financial scammery.

So you're basically arguing workers should never be given stock options or other ownership shares as compensation, because there's a chance those shares could one day increase in value. How very robber baron of you.

>No way he's made or been on atleast 20 songs that have made the top 100 charts

You're over-estimating how much recording artists get paid.

I saw a story of Lisa Lopes talking about how, at the peak of TLC's popularity, they were taking home ~$50k/year each. That was despite having just released one of the best-selling albums ever at the time, CrazySexyCool, which went 12x platinum. It later came out the group only got 56¢ per album sold - at a time when CDs cost $18 each.

"Industry rule number 4080: record company people are shady." -A Tribe Called Quest

>without any access to any kind of aid, medical assistance or education even for their children

If their kids are born in the US, they're automatically American citizens, with the same medical and educational entitlements as any other American.

> It's generations and generations of people who will be eternal prey for anyone who want to exploit them.

No more than any other American.

> They will be and remain poor, without identity neither nationality for their children, who under such circumstances will never come to love their new country.

If they choose to hate America, that's certainly their prerogative. They certainly won't be the first anti-American Americans to ever exist - heck, half the country tried to secede before.

> They will never be heard because they will never have the right to vote

Until they turn 18, then they can vote.

> The only change for them would be to lose everything again when they are found and deported.

No one born in America can be deported, unless they choose to renounce their residency rights.

> I'm French and I am an immigrant in an Asian country.

No wonder you have such an inaccurate image of how American citizenship works.

> They didn’t all stand outside for an hour and a half harassing people

At least one of them hung around outside harassing this cameraman.

Funny how so many cops are "warriors" when bullying unarmed and compliant civilians, but the second there's a situation that actually requires a warrior to combat an armed opponent, they turn into "conscientious objectors."

Classic Russian paranoia.

This isn't even about Russia on Japan's part. Japan is much more concerned about North Korea, which keeps lobbing missiles over their heads, including last week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/03/world/asia/japan-north-korea-missile.html

Then Russia complains "but it's near our borders!" As if all of Japan isn't near Russia's eastern borders.