Bugfrag
Bugfrag t1_j236zyt wrote
Reply to comment by random_shitter in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
A) Things could have been simpler if you simply put the link to the IEA report. Why do you expect anybody to have stumbled into the Honolulu Civilbeat?
B) Clearly you didn't look at my post which referred to global investment. You would have noticed that the units are in dollars.
Your cited resource refers to global capacity, units in GW. These are not equivalent comparisons.
Note that both of my sources (including report from IEA that I searched myself because you didn't provide any) report things in $.
Did you even check out the two references I posted?
In conclusion:
- you made a claim without support
- when pushed for data, presented items that's not even in the same unit.
Bugfrag t1_j21wpml wrote
Reply to comment by random_shitter in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Ok. Let's do this properly then:
A) Can you source the claim that it's 30% higher than projected?
B) Can you describe/cite the methodology for projection
It's your claim, so back it up
I already read the IEA Jan 2022 report. It's not there. https://www.iea.org/reports/world-energy-investment-2022 See
Bugfrag t1_j1zgy8k wrote
Reply to comment by random_shitter in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
In any case, a 30%-higher-than-project means that the IEA projection is off.
It says nothing about the actual investment amount
Bugfrag t1_j1zetbo wrote
Reply to comment by Jack04trades in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
>Oh. So that's why after renewable energy being pushed forward, in this year there was lots of blackout's in USA.
This argument does not make any sense at all.
The investments are being ramped up this year. Congress started to allocate the money, but that does not mean the infrastructure is completed.
If anything the blackouts indicates that a majority fossil fuel based approach is insufficient. Additional infrastructure is needed.
>Damn, people. Its not green energy. Its green for your own country. But to make these solar panela and wind turbines you are making hell lots of easte as well.
The main difference is that renewable waste is isolated during production but clean during its operational liferime. Waste generated for Coal, as a comparison, happened during (a) mining (b) refinement (c) transport (d) continuously while it's burned to generate energy.
>Also "green energy" cannot replace burning yet, its still a lot worse in efficiency. Maybe in future it'll be better, i hope. But not now.
Comparison between efficiency of the two technologies makes absolutely no sense
Efficiency of renewables is different compared to fossil fuel efficiency. For solar, if we don't capture the energy, the sun will still shine. For fossil file power plants, ~70% of the energy generated are burnt away/lost as heat.
Bugfrag t1_j1ydopl wrote
Reply to Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
Seriously, almost every single sentence is incorrect.
>Russian invasion of Ukraine and subsequent shortages of fossil fuel supply have really supercharged the growth of Wind and Solar energy and the electric vehicles.
Global investment in energy is linearly increasing over time since the early 2000s. It's following a trend well established from previous years. https://about.bnef.com/energy-transition-investment/
>The European Union was forced to realize that they can no longer rely on imported fossil fuels.
The EU knows this for a long time, including when Russia first invaded Ukraine in 2014. EU and are still improrting including from the US.
>This has also affected other countries around the world. The United States were not dependent on Fossil Fuel imports, but even there Renewable electricity projects received a big boost this year.
It's not the Russians. Renewable got a boost because Democrats won the presidency and got enough members in the House and Senate.
Bugfrag t1_izjz4fh wrote
Reply to [OC] How to spot misleading charts? I would like to hear your opinion on the subject, also any tips design-wise? by dark_o3
What's your opinion on hand-drawn charts?
Bugfrag t1_j238s4x wrote
Reply to comment by random_shitter in Russians did such a good job promoting renewable energy and electric vehicles this year. by darth_nadoma
And lastly, after reading the methodology to get that 30% number:
The IEA are changing the forecast model for cumulative capacity of 2022-2027 time frame. Their earlier forecast was off. (Read page 17-18 on the IEA report, but it's in the secondary Civilbeat digest)
It's definitely not a year-to-year change
Actual change in capacity is linear (see page 21 on the IEA report, not on Civil beat)