Next they'll want to put all the homeless people together in one place. Like in a camp or something. You know, kind of concentrate them together. Wonder what such a place would be called...

Well, you've tried to pull a sneaky there though. You're not clarifying your first point at all, you're pivoting to a different one. You've gone from "cars are inherently isolating" to "the structure of cities built with cars in mind is isolating." Your second point is more relevant to the thread, and there's some merit to it.

On the other hand, it seems like the ideal I see put forth of "walkable neighborhoods" and "mixed-use spaces" is predicated on everyone working in a coffee shop, a grocery store, or a nice office.

That's fine, but if I'm a mechanic I don't necessarily want to live next to the diesel shop, or a warehouse worker next to a fullfillment center, and if I work in waste management...well, you get the point. Factory workers used to live in dormitories at their worksite, and no one wants to go back to that, I assume.

So, yes, urban planning and infrastructure, including mass transit, is welcome and warrented, but it's never going to be as practicable or widespread as proponents want it to be. And it's not going to cure all of society's ills, including loneliness.

I'm not following how travel time in a car by yourself is lonelier than traveling on a bike by yourself, or walking by yourself. Are you stopping to talk to someone every few hundred feet when you're riding/walking? If you have ever been to a city you know that even in walkable areas, people aren't stopping to chat.

That is correct, he is buried there and there's a marker.

Right, I should have made that more clear, the link I gave mentions that fact. It's just a local "haunted" place, and that's the legend about it.

There are the Jordan Creek Tunnels, aka the Vampire Tunnels. You can schedule a tour with The Watershed Committee, I believe.

Then there's Winoka Lodge aka the Girl Scout camp where three girls were raped and murdered. I don't know much about that one, but maybe someone else does. Probably not something you should go poking around.

The shootout was on the square between Wild Bill Hickok and Davis Tutt over a pocket watch lost in a poker game. There is a marker showing where Wild Bill stood and it has a diagram of the shootout.

As far as I know it's the only historical case of a movie-style stand-and-draw type duel, it's fairly famous.

That's not what I meant by "managing their actions," I was referring to someone becoming so enraged that they lose control and cause an accident. You already knew that but chose to twist my words to make your point.

What Progressive says is all well and good, and a good thing for an insurance company to say, but it's not going to stop anyone from tailgating me.

I'm sure they also say not to tailgate, so clearly none of us are following their advice out there.

That's not my experience. Nine out of ten times they back off or pass, as appropriate. I don't jam my brakes on, I'm not brake checking them, I just ease off on the accelerator.

If they're in my lane because they need to turn, then they turn and the problem resolves itself.

My slowing down to a still-within-reason speed of 35 in a 40 is not the issue causing accidents. People following too closely and driving 55 in a 40, or 40 in school zone is the safety issue here. It's not my responsibility to manage someone else's emotions and actions behind the wheel.

> until you back off or go around.

Does that not explain it? I want them to back off to a safe distance so they don't rear-end me if I have to stop suddenly for some reason. On a two lane road they can just pass me, which is what they should have done in the first place--I don't camp out in the left lane.

If someone consistently needs to drive 10-15 miles over the limit, then they should be allotting more time for driving in their schedule. Their poor planning is not my problem.

What? It burned again?

I have been to Iowa in the winter. If there's ever a nuclear war someone is going to need to call up there and let them know, because they won't be able to tell the difference.

I heard at least two calls on the scanner last night for people firing guns into the air along with all the fireworks calls. As in, the caller reported seeing someone firing the gun, not "I heard fireworks and can't tell the difference." So, it could have been either. It happens every year.

Thing is, I don't remember hearing more than sporadic fireworks on NYE until 2000. Seems like that year and every year after it sounds like downtown Beirut circa 1983.

1. Mostly a call center, but there are a few other departments there as well.

2. I drive 5 over the limit, like most people. If you tailgate me I will slow down to 5 under until you back off or go around.

The low cost of living here can be a trap that makes it difficult to move somewhere else.

Some people have lived here all their lives, have no basis for comparison, and have an idealized view of what they think other places must be like.

And some people just thrive on greivance, and feel special when they highlight how very refined and worldly they are compared to the backward rubes here. It's kind of "le wrong generation," except it's "le wrong geography."

There are lots of things wrong with this area, but there are good things, too, which is what I try to focus on. There are negatives about anyplace you can live, nowhere is perfect.

The mods had to nip this one in the bud, there's a cop thread already, and someone just posted a thread that mentions Mexican Villa. Can't have too many slapfights going at once! 🍿

Interesting. Here in Springfield? And when would you consider "your day?"

There was a News-Leader article about it, they've been advertising for recruits and are trying to address their staffing shortage.

I don't know about them being hostile, have there been incidents, or did you have an incident?

Incidentally, I saw a cop car with front-end damage being loaded on a flatbed on Grand just east of Campbell this morning, anyone know what happened?

Holy shit, how high was it? Did you have to go to the ER?

Bob's Automotive got me in at the end of the month, but I had to schedule a day ahead. You may not get in anywhere today, and since it's Friday you may be screwed.

Home Depot. I bought a bag of nuts there and they were totally inedible. And the whole time I was trying to eat the lady behind the counter kept yelling "Oh my god, what are you doing, you can't eat those!" And then I broke a tooth on top of it. Just terrible.

That's a more charitable take on it than I had considered; hopefully that is the case.

That's why I posted it. It's a tragic story, but the contrast between the content and the headline was... jarring. I think they could have written a more appropriate headline.

It's not that they stole it, they never had it. It was supposed to be a joke I think, but it was rather unthinking and cruel. They might not have intended for it to be cruel, but didn't take into account that it was a real person whose property was lost/stolen.