DoctorSteve

DoctorSteve t1_ivsehu1 wrote

I did not ignore it, I chose to focus on one ridiculous statement from you at a time. Now that we've established that the video from Dr. Oz that says "David McCormick: RINO" is real, we can move on.

I don't care how you voted. You are espousing dangerous rhetoric online and it needs to be addressed.

I showed you videos of the following things.

  1. Oz making very strong statements on the second amendment, on guns, and on using guns to defend against crime - and against the government.
  2. Oz attacking trans people. Reprehensible.
  3. Oz referring to the media as "the woke media". A direct extreme right talking point.
  4. Fauci attacks are a dogwhistle. You are not going to defend Fauci attacks to my face right now. Oz attacked Fauci for months, and Fauci is NOT his opponent in this race. He repeatedly challenged Fauci to debates - sound familiar? Seems like Oz really wanted to pivot to television.
  5. An ad directed strongly at Republican Moms with one Far Right Republican fear tactic after another. Literally says "there's big threats out there". Fear of outsiders, fear of something foreign, fear of the unknown - as hindbrain pandering comments as you can get.
  6. Part of his early campaign when it was more relevant, Oz repeatedly went after the pandemic, against science, against lockdowns, against the vaccine, and for conspiracy theories surrounding Covid. This is an EXTREME position. This isn't moderate. The fact he wanted to fire Fauci should speak volumes. A random poll isn't evidence of anything. And looking at the poll itself, it's by The Hill and HarrisX. HarrisX is NOT The Harris Poll. There isn't much of any evidence over what it is. They have a zero engagement Twitter page.. Looking at the author's other articles, they're all clickbait poll garbage. This isn't evidence. Fauci attacks are NOT mainstream, accepted, moderate positions. Stop spreading lies.
  7. Oz was very strongly (just for the election) anti-abortion. If we've learned anything from last night, America is not anti-abortion. This is an extreme stance.
  8. This last ad goes through a number of hits in a row. All of them are extreme, far right, direct Donald Trump issues. "Big Tech is silencing conservative voices" screams out as an extreme position. More focus on the border - something that is beyond obviously an extreme far right position. The focus of the ad is that Joe Biden is evil. Joe Biden won the election. That clearly makes this position an extreme on.
  9. Oz's Donald Trump endorsement video. Which is more RINO-ing about McCormick. You wrote "So your argument is someone who is extreme likes him so he also must be extreme?" The answer is yes. One extreme political figure endorsing the other directly states that the other must also be extreme. Especially when the endorsement is being made because they share the same views. This ad has Donald Trump say "He believes in the MAGA movement 100%". I don't know how you can spin your way out of that. I know you'll try.

Dr. Oz very, very, very evidently was the extreme candidate in the Republican primary. You need to remember this. And you need to stop giving a candidate respect because they did not begin an insurrection.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivs7kx1 wrote

You understand Oz was Trump's pick, right?

Republicans in a primary attack the other candidates for not being Republican enough. This isn't news. Fetterman got attacks from Lamb for not being enough of a Democrat. Does that mean it's true?

For example, this is an Oz ad from the primaries

This is another one. You've got a Trump comparison, woke media reference, anti-Fauci comment, anti-trans comments, and using the word "fight" which itself is fine, but after the prior comments and references it feels more like a call to violence.

Here's another one, emotional music with insane language

Here's an insane video of his where he seems to think elected officials shouldn't get between you and your doctor on a medical decision, in start contrast to his views on abortion.

I'm having difficulty finding the right ad, but here's Jimmy Kimmel discussing the ad. And also very clearly illustrating the Oz/Trump connection. There's plenty of longer Oz material online. His primary target until the primary ended was Fauci. He had a 15 second ad where all he did was attack Fauci.

Speaking of calling people RINOS, here's Dr. Oz calling McCormick a RINO. With plenty of Trump added in.

Here's another anti-McCormick ad that is awesome. It was clearly not done by Oz's team. Most of his material is recorded in the wrong direction on his phone.

Here's [an ad the uses the term 'swamp'].(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqeBi3WbG8k)

Here's an insane ad. Dr. Oz's team is really, really bad. If it wasn't for the national influence he'd probably have done nothing. That Wegners ad was the best idea he had.

I can't find the Fauci ad, but it was Dr. Oz in a 15 second ad saying he's going to Fire Fauci.

Anyway - as you can see, he's not moderate. I mean, have you forgotten the Citizens for Sanity ads that ran on his behalf every single second of the Baseball playoffs?

I do not know how short your memory is. But Dr. Oz conceding does not make him a moderate. He is in lock step with someone who led an insurrection against the United States. This is absolutely ridiculous. I do not know how you got to believe this, but this is ridiculous and dangerous thinking. Dr. Oz was the more extreme candidate in the primary, and he is certainly STILL extreme. Just because people pivot towards the center doesn't erase any of this. You need to educate yourself. You are giving credit and respect to an extremely dangerous person. THIS is why the election was so important.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivs2cbl wrote

I know we aren't talking about an insurrection, because he conceded. And you wrote "it's refreshing that he conceded". What's the alternative? What's the precedent to not conceding?

This is the comparison YOU made. I am telling you why your thinking is dangerous. You don't have to like it but it's true.

I don't know what you told me "I really don't care if you don't like to hear it" for. I don't want an insurrection. But I don't praise people when they don't begin an insurrection. You do.

Get some standards for Republicans.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivryz60 wrote

It might be refreshing to see a Republican concede instead of start an insurrection, but you have to be vigilant and keep your standards high enough that a Republican can concede and you don't respect them for it.

This is a personal problem, not a societal problem. We need to expect better of a Republican that we don't praise them when they don't start an insurrection.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivripg2 wrote

For CONCEDING A RACE HE LOST?!

You understand this is continually lowering the bar you set for Republicans? When the bar for a Republican is "losing", and when one loses you go "You know what, I respect that he did not storm Harrisburg with a militia", that is a wake up call for you.

Hold Republicans to a higher standard. Or you are only further pushing the idea of what a "Moderate" Republican is.

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DoctorSteve t1_ivrftfb wrote

He kills dogs with experiments with no concern for their well being.

He kills humans with misleading pills, scams, and medical advice with no concern for their well being.

He is friends with the dictator of a country who has waged wars on all of its borders.

But sure, he conceded a race he lost. I guess he is a good person after all.

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