Frumpagumpus
Frumpagumpus t1_j63pi3u wrote
Reply to Asking here and not on an artist subreddit because you guys are non-artists who love AI and I don't want to get coddled. Genuinely, is there any point in continuing to make art when everything artists could ever do will be fundamentally replaceable in a few years? by [deleted]
currently, you can ask it to generate an image, but not a movie. In order to coordinate at a higher level you need to understand lower level details, which can only be done via practice.
so, as an artist, my game plan would be
to broaden my scope - e.g. go from generating art for comics to generating whole comics, or from stills to youtube videos (this will be a bit of a race cuz AI will also broaden its scope, however you don't seem to want to do this, although it's probably the way to capture the most economic value, albeit a bit of a high effort gamble)
> is there any point in continuing to make art being human when everything artists humans could ever do will be...
personally I would bet the last jobs to be automated will be manual labor jobs. but that will probably only last a couple years after most white collar work has been automated. i would be surprised if it was more than 8 yrs (after white collar work is automated that is, which might be more like 15 years). if i had to bet maybe 3-4 yrs. i think they will pay a lot better than they do now though, although manual labor also has a learning curve so now might not be a bad time to start.
Frumpagumpus t1_j63aara wrote
Reply to comment by _a_a_a_a_a_a_ in ⭕ What People Are Missing About Microsoft’s $10B Investment In OpenAI by LesleyFair
mods are capricious, some may allow it through some may not (and whether it is relevant or not is only weakly correlated, here it is fairly relevant), one of his motives is he is trying to promote his newsletter.
in terms of quality of the post though i would say it is definitely top 2% of content on the sub though so, why not
Frumpagumpus t1_j5eh5e7 wrote
Reply to comment by MootFile in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
it seems to me the incidence of effective altrusists is higher amongst ultra high net worth individuals than ordinary people.
(and objectively they seem to have achieved quite a lot e.g. bill gates&rotary club vs polio)
Frumpagumpus t1_j5eh1iu wrote
Reply to comment by nathanielKay in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
huh, that sounds awful similar, except it puts slightly more emphasis on egalitarianism over raw industrial capacity...
Frumpagumpus t1_j5deh3i wrote
Reply to comment by AllCommiesRFascists in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
i may have been exaggerating slightly.
still, it used to be a lot more efficient of a system, than it is now.
Frumpagumpus t1_j5de98i wrote
Reply to comment by MootFile in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
capitalism = capital can be acquired through free trade
you seem to be positing that "pro scientism" will somehow distribute capital via a means other than trade, some form of distribution, which would presumably require making some kind of moral judgement of the form person y deserves amount of capital z.
but i don't see how scientific method has anything to do with making such moral judgements.
Frumpagumpus t1_j5d58kj wrote
Reply to comment by MootFile in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
another thing I would say is science/bayes theorem by itself is really no basis for any kind of moral philosophy. it has problems almost as bad as religious appeal to power/authority. not to mention is/ought problem.
freedom or fairness might be. so i think as bad as NAP principle is libertarians at least make a good faith effort whereas scientism doesn't even start from any kind of grounding.
pursuit of truth is somewhat interesting as well, though i think pursuit of falseness is equally interesting, as well as pursuit of computational complexity i guess XD (but that's a level deeper than just empirical experimentation)
Frumpagumpus t1_j5d3kj8 wrote
Reply to comment by MootFile in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
science was great until they invented peer review and transformed it into a public institution.
science has done almost nothing in decades. computer science on the other hand... why do you think stephen wolfram bailed on physics?
vaccines were big pharma ;_; lol. i dont even like them (i hate intellectual property (chinese have almost made clean energy transformation possible by ignoring the f*** out of intellectual property making solar cells and batteries cheap as dirt) but u gotta hand it to them they did that
(just look at r/science it's a joke)
Frumpagumpus t1_j5c09d1 wrote
Reply to comment by freeman_joe in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
> Elon has money nothing more or less
not true. he is actually technically competent and also mentally deranged in a way that has been useful in the situations he has found himself in (tho it did get him fired from paypal and has hurt him on many occassions as well... still john carmack tried to start a rocket company (armadillo aerospace), and he is an ENGINEER's ENGINEER, but he failed, and musk succeeded, cuz musk committed everything) > we need more independent scientists and engineers.
possibly true in the USA. in india or china, engineer is a dime a dozen.
you guys call yourselves elon haters but I have literally shorted tesla in the past (managed to survive tho lol). you know nothing XD
Frumpagumpus t1_j5br76u wrote
Reply to comment by jsseven777 in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
NO. Landowners are bad. including homeowners. and also banks (banks effectively own land from issuing mortgages).
But, in an ideal world, probably most people would rent from a "building owner", yes. (because all land rent would be paid directly to the government and any excess after basic functions like public infrastructure and military spending paid out as ubi) (practically speaking, you would have to still have some private land wealth at least at first so you could get a market price for land rent).
In fact, our current system is basically feudalism. Barons (banks&boomer homeowners), guilds (american medical assocation, the bar association, professors&peer review), and serfs (amazon workers). Combined with fascism (federal bureaucracies and public schools and public/private parternships like microsoft, amazon, and lockheed martin).
this all works okay, but it could be a lot better. but if you just totally socialize the corporations idk how you can predict anything but catastrophe. whoever is in charge of distributing the wealth will take their cut and give it out in such a way it will only misalign incentives. incentives are obviously really important.
Frumpagumpus t1_j5bpshp wrote
Reply to comment by jsseven777 in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
i also think it's REALLY telling the very first question you ask is do you own your own home?
who do i think are the baddies? well, homeowners mostly lol. landowners in general but that's mostly homeowners and the government, with a little bit of bezos and gates sprinkled in (but only a little)
homeowners interests are not compatible with any kind of productivity. (free example, it KILLS labor mobility)
Frumpagumpus t1_j5bp7vm wrote
Reply to comment by jsseven777 in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
> This is why GDP (PPP) per capita is often considered one of the indicators of a country's standard of living,[3][4] although this can be problematic because GDP per capita is not a measure of personal income
far from "it's a bad measure"
Frumpagumpus t1_j5bp1nc wrote
Reply to comment by jsseven777 in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
> advertising fall 40%+
temporarily cuz a bunch of leftist controlled corporations (which you seem to hate corporations?) are trying to cancel him lol
Frumpagumpus t1_j5bn16m wrote
Reply to comment by jsseven777 in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
countries with better standard of living than USA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(PPP)_per_capita
Luxembourg *
Liechtenstein *
Singapore *
Ireland *
Monaco *
Qatar *
Bermuda *
Isle of Man *
Switzerland *
Norway
United Arab Emirates *
basically you need oil wealth or to be a tax haven
i agree US healthcare is a shitshow, but it would be way better if it was a free market... also USA ppl are obese partly cuz we have to drive everywhere cuz of zoning regulations, cuz government (which we kind've vote for... sort of, but that's just the tyranny of democracy (which i think is better than autocracy for the record, but I would prefer it if every country had open borders and we could easily switch between countries)
Do you own your own home?
No, and I think home ownership is by far the most toxic part of pretty much every society. We should NOT encourage home ownership. homes are a huge freaking time sink. and you do NOT want to have everyone voting for their land to appreciate. that is why we are in the mess we are in.
Do you make a living wage?
yes
Do you have a six month cushion if you lose your job?
yes
Frumpagumpus t1_j5bles2 wrote
Reply to comment by jsseven777 in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
the government are the baddies. along with landowners©right&ip holders.
billionaires in modern society have paper fortunes. the wealthiest don't even have physical wealth at all almost, all they have is control of the corporations whose profits they drive, there is nothing for you to take from them... except for control.
and once you take that control and hand it over to the government, you will live in squalor.
(source - observation, on the contrary you are the one who is drinking in propaganda, media, including social media, harps on all your talking points 24/7 lol)
Frumpagumpus t1_j5bjr48 wrote
Reply to comment by jsseven777 in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
lol twitter has cut like over half it's staff and it still hasn't fallen over yet. haven't even really seen fail whales for the most part.
pretty sure their user base has grown
that's a big success from a corporate point of view
edit in response to edit and no i wouldnt want to live on mars (and especially not under musk government) or work for elon musk but I'm not bent on commandeering his money lol (in particular I think if you do commandeer it, it will be in such a way that sets up a bunch of perverse incentives and you'll probably waste almost all of it worse than musk would, by a lot)
wealth tax bad, land value tax good, also land value tax basically taxes "unjust wealth" (maybe eliminate copyright and do pigovian tax like carbon tax and cig tax and their might not even be much if any unjust wealth)
Frumpagumpus t1_j5bjfs9 wrote
Reply to comment by jsseven777 in What do you think an ordinary, non-billionaire non-PhD person should be doing, preparing, or looking out for? by Six-headed_dogma_man
pretty sure elon musk is gonna need a lot more than a couple hundred billion to build a mars colony, for the easiest example. (i don't actually think building a mars colony would even be productive but there's a lot of related space tech that may be highly relevant and it's also not really my place to say what other people do with money they earn in my worldview).
Frumpagumpus t1_j552ka3 wrote
Reply to comment by XO-3b in Instead of escaping to virtual realities, what if we just made our reality as good as any virtual reality could be? by [deleted]
i would bet the opposite, most users are probably college educated, and in top 1% worldwide of wealth (when compared to other their age)/education
they also probably skew younger than median age in their countries and male if i were to guess
Frumpagumpus t1_j54vlrg wrote
Reply to comment by CypherLH in How have you been using chatGPT to improve your life? by zendogsit
thats a cool idea just have gpt3 look at your journalctl every day and send you a summary email XD (context window might be somewhat limiting)
Frumpagumpus t1_j53b5ri wrote
Reply to comment by zendogsit in How have you been using chatGPT to improve your life? by zendogsit
one example is when i asked it to produce javascript that creates an html table, but uses the keys of a json object as table headers, it wrote some code that did all of that then stuck all the value in the first two columns. (still saved me some time anyway or, interestingly from having to use a library)
one funny thing is, with more well known languages like javascript, it seems like it never writes code that doesn't execute, it just doesn't seem to make syntax errors at all, if you asked me to write equivalent amounts i would write tons of syntax errors.
with less well known languages it makes up api calls.
it recognizes when you can use recursion to simplify things pretty well (e.g. in the json -> html table example it wrote a recursive solution), but i find goading it into doing like sub sub queries to be very difficult (for things like an sql query that joins a table to itself, select some columns, then accesses some json property, it would have difficulty doing all of that from my bad descriptions anyway)
Frumpagumpus t1_j52baed wrote
i almost exclusively use playground as opposed to chatgpt, but i find it helplful for
writing sql queries
writing javascript that manipulates or accesses json that you can give it a structured example of
helped me figure out emacs keybindings in some instances
i occasionally use it to generate text or bounce random thoughts i have off of it.
has helped me get started on my taxes by suggesting relevant forms
Frumpagumpus t1_j503n7c wrote
Reply to comment by sethasaurus666 in OpenAI's CEO Sam Altman won't tell you when they reach AGI, and they're closer than he wants to let on: A procrastinator's deep dive by Magicdinmyasshole
idk those sound an awful lot like core brain funtionalities to me lol
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Frumpagumpus t1_j3xe2rj wrote
Reply to comment by LoquaciousAntipodean in Australian universities to return to ‘pen and paper’ exams after students caught using AI to write essays | Australian universities by geeceeza
i agree civilization does seem to be heading in a direction similar to the spacers in isaac asimovs robots of dawn.
i can somewhat understand the sentiment though lol. ppl r complicated, can be hard to be around
Frumpagumpus t1_j63thi9 wrote
Reply to If given the chance in your life time, will join a theoretical transhumanist hive mind? by YobaiYamete
i dont think the hive mind will be quite the way it is traditionally imagined with simultaneous telepathy.
rather, i think it will be based instead on an extreme speedup in the speed at which communication and thought is possible combined with the ability to share chunks of not just thought, but "brain", the programming that produces the thoughts, between one another. Also things like conflict free datatypes, and the ability to explictly select between handshake forms of communication like TCP and broadcast forms like UDP (which humans switch between the two but in humans you can only guess/infer if your counterparty is using one or the other, but in machines its a lot more explicit)
all that stuff is probably sufficient to produce enough consensus or coordination that machine enabled intelligence could resemble fictional hive minds, but every element with sufficient capabilities would be capable of just as much or possibly even more privacy than an individual human has thanks to cryptography.
at latencies below human thought there might be substantial disagreement or argument.