That’s really actually the lesson about JC. It’s not chilltown at all dawg

Does the Double Tree parking lot where 50 Cent got shot that one time make the list?

I mean this ideas in this thread are alittle West Side light. Depends if we get desperate

God's light has no home in that shopping plaza

LSC probably should make the list, for adults & kids alike.

I'm not personally unaware of the historic nature of the parks, but am asking the question in relation to including them in the list. I guess the people downvoting me don't get that? Most cities of that era would have somewhat similar parks. What makes ours so uniquely must-see, is my point. Maybe the story that was the life of Van Vorst- fancy rich people area, crack houses in the 80s, and the revival had the wonderful VVP Association volunteers make it the wonderful spot it is today

Debated including Morris Canal in the OP, as it's incredibly important to early American history but most folks don't know why. Would you point people to the Morris Square Park plaques as 'the point'?

Yeah, it's just in the lobby in City Hall. Third floor I think? Everyone should visit our city hall, it was pretty neat before but Fullop has been renovating it back to it's Art Deco heyday glory the past few years.

It made no sense, and despite claims it was always supposed to be temporary I don't believe that shit. It was painted over because the artist spoke out against the pressure to change it to include the politically connected developer, and painting it over literally covers up the discussion. But that's just like, my tinfoil hat opinion man

It was probably the best public art they have done on the plaza. It was neat, kids loved playing on it, it was swell

That'd be Elijah

Boulevard may make the cut.

I'm unsure about Healy's or Barrow Mansion. Maybe because I've gotten undercooked wings at Healy's

Everyone coming out of the woodwork wanting Hudson Mall to make the list

If we're running low that can illustrate our unique car culture

It's true, and it's a twofer around musical history & the graveyard itself.

Gotta know the nod and handshake to get it. Anyone asking for coffee by default gets banned from life around knowing.

If we have 1 pizza place on the list, is it Carmine's, Pizza Masters, or Razza?

I think the question is does Barge Inn make the list or not?

Lucky 7's may make the list, because it's also somewhat about the 80's punks that moved to JC when NYC was getting gentrified in the 90s. Some of them are still here!

What does that teach, illustrate, or show someone that is uniquely JC?

Our famous corrupt back in the day Mayor who shaped much of modern JC, including the tunnel, journal square being a center of culture, the building of the huge sprawling 'modernized' hospital complex & maternity ward that is now The Beacon (one of the largest in the world at time). He had a desk with drawers on both ends that was reportedly used to leave bribes.

So that's making the list, you just learned a whole bunch about JC

That's part of the learning process

It's not the same guy, from the 2 I'm thinking of. The fireman is a short filipino (?) dude who picked it up because no one else in the house was doing it for events/funerals, other one is a younger tall white guy.

You build it I'll book it

"LOL"

There is a fireman dude who practices around Grove Street, at reasonable hours for that sort of thing. Then there is a younger dude that wanders about, spotted downtown & the heights.

I haven't seen or heard either in awhile though

If they get a mural maybe, but no real way to point folks to a place to try and understand their lives specifically. Though it is an interesting concept to try and include, as the reality of our town & recent history

Actually Empty Sky is a great add, a reminder of how we function so intertwined with NYC for folks every day & the impact the tragedy had here