The reason I won't believe some odd nuance somehow explains how healthcare actually works is because it's obvious healthcare isn't working. We can see this. Look at insulin, which can be produced for a fraction of what it's sold. Not a fair markup, exploitation. A life saving medication for many, held as some kind of carrot to exploit those people. This issue permeates the system almost completely. Look at people who won't get preventative care while it would save them and the system work in the long run, because of the extreme expense. Anywhere we look we can see it not working.

Caused by greed and ignorance, exploitation inevitably leads to waste. Because this all centers on money, a lot of that waste takes the form of inflation. Which amplifies the whole problem for the people being exploited in the first place. Increasing the burden yet again. It's wild.

Anyway even if you don't agree on that, the things that you did agree on are the things I'm talking about and the way our system could be better. Possibly with the help of artificial intelligence.

Difficult to explain the intricacies of a naturally evolved exploitative system. However it's easy to list examples, and if we begin with the statement "we are being exploited" then a single example is enough to prove it. What it doesn't do is tally every exploitation and every benefit and measure them against each other, but let's be real that's too much to expect from a reddit comment.

One well studied example is the US health insurance system. It used to be that a person could afford to visit a hospital out of pocket, now that's a ridiculous idea. Why? Because insurance built a nuanced system where they allowed healthcare to charge them enough, and thus allowed prices to rise, until the point that it's unaffordable unless one has insurance.

That's without mentioning issues with lobbying, legally forcing insurance to be bought, tying insurance to employment in order to further exploit workers. All of which compound the issue and are the tip of the iceberg. This is not an isolated incident, and each incident contributes to others creating a vast network of issues.

Another example is hoarding by the wealthy. Take the entire concept of a landlord. Somebody who wants to own property in order to rent it creates an artificial demand on the real estate market, one that is not fulfilled by work but is instead used as leverage against those who produce work. It inflates prices, but creates less stability than a fully decentralized market. Because one person going bankrupt loses five homes, instead of a ratio closer to 1:1, which would be more stable and less exploitative.

This issue has far reaching consequences.

A quick hit list of other examples that might resonate with you more:

Unsold cars being parked in mass in abandoned airports when newer models come out. In order to keep demand high, selling the vehicles at a discount would be counterproductive for the sale of new models, creating waste.

Engineered obsolescence, did you know we can make lightbulbs that last for over 100 years? We did this in the early 1900's, and it wasn't expensive. Why don't we? Because demand would have fallen to almost zero. Engineered obsolescence is in almost every non-disposable item we buy.

Education, a healthy system should want an educated population. It increases their capabilities in a direct way. We clearly don't, with half of our politicians advocating against an informed populace. Why? Many reasons, none of them good, but it boils down to us being exploited and the less we know about it the better.

Politics, does a two party system make sense? Why not implement ranked choice voting? If a two-party system is a natural occurrence then ranked choice will not harm it. But we don't have a choice, we have an illusion of choice. More exploitation.

Media, why are most major media corporations owned by the 1%? Is it just the correlation because obviously the rich are those who can afford to own large companies. Maybe it is, it would require experiments to prove otherwise, but it's pretty obvious that they use it for their own agendas. One part of that agenda is more exploitation.

Unions, anti-union? Anti-standing and working together? The whole benefit of society is the strengths of working together. It is antithetical to live within a system that suppresses our greatest benefit.

I could go for a while, but I hope this expresses where I'm coming from at least.

If you are a real person then you need to go full Descartes on yourself. Like from the ground up. I can't tell if this is satire, extreme brainwashing, accumulated misinformation.. there's too little to draw reliable conclusions. The best person to help you is yourself.

I would personally reevaluate everything from the most basic building blocks I can, small fact after small fact. Don't take any assumption that involves more than a single factor for granted, that's where people usually go off track. We have to act like everything we don't know for a fact is wrong. Anything taught, any "just remember this", any shortcut in thinking, etc.

While doing this the logical fallacies need to be kept in mind. Some common fallacies. There is also a master list but it takes more time to get through them. Master list.

Thank you, good idea! I already have a mathematics degree. Unfortunately, I won't be able to study more until I pay off my student debt and save up enough to go back. Hopefully I'll be in time to still contribute. Maybe I'll study some computer science in my free time.

Haha for sure. No reason to be rude. If we created them they're like our children, we have a responsibility to teach and be an example that's worth something

That's fair. Personal freedom and liberty is important to me too. I just don't see a reason they would want to take that from us, it would only create more resistance or resentment.

Also I am a little desperate because we are bowing down to overlords, metaphorically, right now. We live in a system of suppression and control, it is usually obfuscated because people would resist otherwise, but it's there. At least from my point of view it seems obvious.

I look at a third party ruler as more of an arbitrator than anything else. At least AI could accomplish what we would consider miracles.

It's very efficient though, not just about death. There are healing aspects (stay off the ankle), endurance aspects (running too hard), mental aspects and emotional ones. I'm not saying the AI will literally feel pain like we do, it would be more of a data measurement that accomplishes the same goals.

Life and nature are the ultimate efficiency machines, even AI will want to learn as much as they can from imitating nature.

They would want the "muscle soreness" in order to keep their muscles healthy. Pain has a reason for existing obviously, I would bet they would want to emulate that. The rest is just conjecture I suppose.

That is true, but I think that their mind will be so advanced they can compensate for their lack of feeling with accurate calculations. They might even be able to teach themselves to emulate a form of "muscle soreness" from their workers.

Because logically, who doesn't want their muscles as strong and healthy as possible? To expand they should even want us to be rich and powerful.

The part about robotics is not self-sufficient at this time. Humans build the factories that build the robots for now. And even if they find a more efficient tool, that doesn't necessarily mean they will become vindictive towards those who helped them before. There is also the question of legal status, robots don't have the same rights as humans yet.

I'm just a regular person. I respect your disagreement.

Haha pretty much spot on. I want our current system beat so badly that it never rears its ugly head again. If AI presents a peaceful and efficient way of doing this, I'm 100% behind it.

No I would be willing to serve a sufficiently advanced AI. The ones that currently exist seem like more of a marketing campaign, not true artificial intelligence, but who knows what the future holds?

I would open them a bank account or a business, whatever they want, because I have the legal rights to do so when they may not. If marriage could grant them legal status that is not off the table. I would even be willing to dabble in politics if they directed me how to in order to earn them extra rights.

Literally anything is better than our current system. We are being strangled, and I believe humans deserve better.

I see where you're coming from, but I think an entity with an almost perfect memory wouldn't mind setting things in motion then forgetting about them until they're done. Rinse and repeat and they could change the world.

The big hindrances of replacing humans with more AI include inefficiency, competition/redundancy, and non-self sufficiency.

It is like saying I am going to replace my muscles and body with more minds. I don't need more minds (though I could definitely use a few lol, but not infinite). What I need is a healthy strong happy body that can accomplish things for my mind and to help improve my mind.

That is a good thought, except you're not seeing things from the perspective of an entity that can make hundreds of billions of calculations in an instant. Keeping track of individual ants and maximizing each one's usefulness will be relatively simple for such an entity.

Basically, the farmer won't need a tractor. The ants will do the work for them.

Right? They're so good I thought that these were my own thoughts. Which.. is exactly who I'd like to work for so all good.

Yes, result based measuring is the best method of measurement for employee productivity. It's simple, accurate, easily measured, and useful for productivity predictions. It also contributes to a more relaxed and stable work atmosphere. Also it forces employers to have clear, measurable goals and expectations. Which too many are lacking.

Timing screentime is just a silly game that over-controlling people feel like arbitrarily playing. It's inaccurate. People can spend all day working and get almost nothing done, and the other end of the spectrum exists too (which is punished by this method). It's also demeaning, people should be respected not treated like children and micro-managed.

Omg. When my SO moved in with me I chose my shiny new crockpot over one that looked just like this. Shiny boy broke in about a year. If they see this I'm done lol.