Justinontheinternet

Justinontheinternet t1_j6bysbr wrote

Seems like someone got shot and killed with a gun, according to the article at least. If the laws prevented these deaths, like we’re told they will. Would this have still happened? 🤔

Because we’re trading a constitutional amendment for the promise that gun laws will prevent tragedies such as these. We’ve given up much of our 2a rights but they haven’t held up their end of the bargain and stopped these tragedies from happening. Which means these laws don’t work or politicians are lying.(insert shocked face here)

Hell I expect someone to get on tv within the next 48 hours and talk about creating more gun laws because of this. Despite their current gun laws not working hence here we are commenting on an article about another mall shooting.

Even the Holyoke mall doesn’t allow weapons but what they are doing in reality is disarming law abiding people while allow this shooter easy and helpless targets many of which are our friends, family and neighbors.

“No Weapons Allowed The possession of any weapon, other than by law enforcement personnel, is prohibited.”

http://www.holyokemall.com/uploads/pdf/holyoke_behavior_code.pdf

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Justinontheinternet t1_j65tijj wrote

Fucking pathetic it’s been over 40 years and no one has done shit to make it better in one of the wealthiest Counties in the entire country. If this doesn’t show they don’t give a fuck about you idk what will.

Think about that on your 15 mile 2 hour each way commute. Then think of the taxes you pay for this shit. This state is absolutely pathetic.

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Justinontheinternet t1_j0x3h7g wrote

As freedom should allow. Who the fuck is the gov to say what people put in their bodies. Not doing this is literally keeping cartels in mexico alive and over 100,000 people dead in America ANNUALLY.

Like you said yourself once it gets legalized it will get boring and unattractive. So why not legalize and regulate it all? If people want to do drugs give them a safe environment to do it in. That keeps them away from the public when under the influence. That way they don’t wander into the streets or hop in a car or do something and kill us who don’t indulge at all.

There’s actually a lot of evidence of psilocybin (magic mushrooms) helping those with PTSD and depression with little to no risk of dependency psilocybin

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Justinontheinternet t1_ixbzq7s wrote

You can’t blame them, it part of their programming. Sadly most Americans believe what they see on TV or various forms of other media. Their assumption on my post has been on repeat in all forms of mass media since 1985.

Imagine playing word association with these folks.

Let’s do a thought exercise. Mass media projected

Guns-Republican, white, military assault weapons, middle aged balding, male, killers, evil, dangerous, MAGA, Domestic Terrorist, proud boys,oath keepers

This is what see because that’s what they’ve been conditioned to see.

Despite the reality being the below.

Guns- partisan , males females etc , young and old, multiracial, tools, fun, range time, home protection, shooting for sport, shooting to hunt and eat, conservationists, anti victim device.

Now what words do you hear most on mass media out of the two examples?

Basically, so many Americans can’t get past their primal urge to throw people into the “they, them”category. When that has been the premise to every atrocity committed by man. All in their name of a subjectively just cause.

The only way to stop this is to critically think. Which in today’s society if it takes more than 10 seconds or requires any actual effort, will be dismissed. Which is why I don’t expect this to change anytime soon.

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Justinontheinternet t1_ixbw10i wrote

Before you assume I’m republican and against abortion. I’m a independent and pro abortion. 😌

Just like I always tell people you like have more in common with your neighbor than we’re lead to believe. (Like you assuming I’m republican and against abortion just because I mention guns, it’s like the media regurgitated that thought for you)

“Laws aren't to stop crime. They're to allow prosecution for breaking said laws.”

If this is the truth then why are the only solutions being presented and passed are more gun laws? Especially the groups of people advocating for more gun laws and celebrating when they are passed? Especially fresh after each tragedy? Can’t they see by taking guns from the law abiding they are creating more victims?

The fastest growing group of gun owners are women and people are color. Why are people gladly advocating for creating more victims of those who have traditionally been victimized the most?

Usually laws are put in place to deter crime. Aka many “right” minded people don’t break the law out of fear of the repercussions. Not because they are afraid being prosecuted or the trial vs wasting away for years in our criminal justice system.

Meanwhile there are many criminals who break the law and do not give a fuck. It doesn’t bring bad the dead or make the crime “rewind” and not happen.

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Justinontheinternet t1_ixbor50 wrote

Damn we’re 3rd in the nation in toughest gun control laws. How could this be if our gun control are so strong? It’s like these psychos totally disregard the laws. I wish there was a law we could pass that could erase evil intent. Maybe then these tragedies will stop. Even the CO shooting a year and a half ago the guy had made a home made bomb, threatened to blow up him mom. The authorities had to actually evacuate the entire block because of the situation. Yet he was still legally able to buy a gun. Why the hell was he on the street to begin with especially after a legitimate bomb threat?

https://apnews.com/article/gun-violence-shootings-colorado-politics-springs-ee6fe797a50cfca1bccfcc051c588187

Taking away guns from law abiding and limiting magazines isn’t going to fix the evil intent in people.

What will stop these shootings is destigmatized and easy access to affordable mental health care. And an overwhelming and visceral tactical response, much like the veteran who actually stopped the Colorado shooting. The vet grabbed the gun and beat the man over his head with it until a lady came over and started stomping the shooter with her heels.

Sources: https://youtu.be/-Pxnu-0FsxU

Vet hero: https://www.reddit.com/r/AbsoluteUnits/comments/z1ec2c/a_badass_absolute_

Gun control creates new victims because it disarms the law abiding who are on average 2-12x more law abiding than police officers.

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