Knackered_lot
Knackered_lot t1_jb2uhm0 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
"The grid is far more stable in voltage and frequency than an isolated system"
You show clear indication of not knowing anything about this subject 🙂
Knackered_lot t1_jawj2cs wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
Using Ad hominems isn't the best argument. Do some research.
Knackered_lot t1_javutfs wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
UPS systems are highly efficient when powering a designated load. The problem is the grid, it's far from a designated load. This is because the grid power is highly variable, and the UPS system must constantly adjust its output voltage and frequency to match it. This can result in additional losses and reduced efficiency. Additionally, the reactive power necessary to push out KVARs can also contribute to losses, especially when there are extra reactive elements in the mix.
Another challenge that can affect the efficiency of grid-connected UPS systems is the overall power demand on the grid. If the UPS system is connected to a heavily loaded grid, it may not be able to provide sufficient power to its designated load, which can result in decreased efficiency or even failure of the UPS system.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but with our current grid demands, it's unrealistic to think that we can power the world by solar and wind alone. That's what I'm saying.
Knackered_lot t1_jaun5j6 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
I work in the power industry and gain nothing from lying, I just point out the energy hypocrisies when I see them. 🤷🏻♂️
Knackered_lot t1_jarzjnr wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
Do you know the power loss of inverters that large of size? It would be completely unfeasible.
Grid Batteries provide 1KW for every 3KW stored, large in part because of the power loss of inverters.
Knackered_lot t1_jao4qzv wrote
Reply to Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
Solar doesn't create enough KVARs to power a grid sustainably. And forget about when, you know, night time.
Wind farms produce enough KVARs, but highly variable amounts of wind makes for an unreliable power plant.
I would love for us to be able to do all this, but it is not realistic.
Knackered_lot t1_j9rvxmn wrote
I believe the next generation will not have the same relationship with the music industry that we currently do.
The next program could be one that creates a song based on your current mood, job, task, etc. Maybe even use lyrics you write. That would be something.
Knackered_lot t1_irxl9gk wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The US's National Renewable Energy Laboratory wants to make decentralized microgrids as simple to set up and operate as diesel generators, and has created a prototype that is much simpler than existing microgrid technology. by lughnasadh
Yeah maybe for things like phone batteries. Grid batteries are a whole different beast. A significant amount of KVARs is necessary to run a grid. Batteries don't scale 1:1 when comparing small Lithium batteries to ones that provide power to a grid.
In other words, the inverter necessary to store the energy from AC to DC uses power, and the same vice versa for supplying power. I'm not thinking of hydrogen, just the application of batteries on a grid.
Knackered_lot t1_irrqji2 wrote
Reply to comment by mastapsi in The US's National Renewable Energy Laboratory wants to make decentralized microgrids as simple to set up and operate as diesel generators, and has created a prototype that is much simpler than existing microgrid technology. by lughnasadh
Oh ok. I understand the AC generator part of things, but I am less sure about how this frequency works on a renewable energy microgrid. Does the variable frequency work in a way with the AC (capacitive/inductive) reactance equation? for say, you need a lower current so in an inductive circuit, higher frequency -> higher reactance -> higher impedance -> lower current.
Knackered_lot t1_iqqsen7 wrote
Reply to comment by mastapsi in The US's National Renewable Energy Laboratory wants to make decentralized microgrids as simple to set up and operate as diesel generators, and has created a prototype that is much simpler than existing microgrid technology. by lughnasadh
This is not correct. You may be confusing frequency with voltage.
Knackered_lot t1_iqqrudr wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in The US's National Renewable Energy Laboratory wants to make decentralized microgrids as simple to set up and operate as diesel generators, and has created a prototype that is much simpler than existing microgrid technology. by lughnasadh
Where do you get this 90% efficiency from? I have heard the batteries used for the grid have been tested to produce 1KW for every 3KW stored
Knackered_lot t1_iqqri5f wrote
Reply to The US's National Renewable Energy Laboratory wants to make decentralized microgrids as simple to set up and operate as diesel generators, and has created a prototype that is much simpler than existing microgrid technology. by lughnasadh
This will be needed for the lack of VARs that solar produces.
Knackered_lot t1_jb5fr2c wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Electric world that kicks out fossil fuels will cost less than combustion economy. 30TW of wind and solar PV will take 0.2% of earth's surface. by DisasterousGiraffe
Doesn't matter your profession. To say the grid is more stable than a dedicated system of components is... very wrong. Please, do us all a favor and correct this deficiency.