Koda_20

Koda_20 t1_j4q3r43 wrote

They wouldn't even talk to me. Just kept telling me they'd help me find someone in my area. I called to talk and they wanted to pass me off right away. I didn't feel like going through the whole process so I hung up. Hope they aren't like that to everyone. I just needed to talk to someone right then and there.

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Koda_20 t1_j4m1tj4 wrote

Alright so first you're gonna wanna get a collar and leash. This is useful to keep your guest in a specified radius. It should be long enough to reach the bathroom and bedroom.

Secondly you're gonna wanna hire someone to stand watch and shout if necessary. They should be able to monitor your guest should any issues arrive. You might also need a leash and collar for your guard, in case he decides to go for the refrigerator as well.

Next up you're gonna wanna get a bike lock for the fridge door. If guest thinks it's suspicious tell them you have a half dead body in there that you don't want getting out. He will understand.

Finally you're probably gonna wanna just get your buddy an Airbnb for the night instead

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Koda_20 t1_irxqgd6 wrote

If that is the price to pay for being brought into the world and protected, better than nothing. Sure.

Though I wouldn't say it would be okay for the farmer to shoot me without my consent. This is where adult humans differ from animals, they can't do that mental math and decide for themselves so I decide for them as their caretaker (if I'm the ethical farmer who wants to breed a baby cow for future slaughter).

The best we can do when making a choice for someone that can't make it for themselves, is consider what we would want if it were up to us.

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Koda_20 t1_irxnpjl wrote

I can do all the mental gymnastics I want when you use absolute statements like that. Only need to think of a single instance. Whether or not the animal wanted to die is irrelavent, of course it didn't, but overall it had a net positive existence in the world I reckon. If it were up to me I'd rather be born and raised well and then killed later in life than not exist at all, so I see no cruelty in that.

Sure, the actual killing of the animal is a bit unethical, but from my perspective eating ethically sourced meat is no problem.

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Koda_20 t1_irxevqn wrote

I'm sorry but no, that's not true.

Is it animal cruelty to raise a baby cow on an open range farm and give it an enjoyable life and then painlessly slaughter it later in life? Is it wrong to pick up a deer that just got hit by a car and make use of the meat?

Many say no. Me included.

Everything dies, not everything has to suffer unnecessarily. I purchase ethically sourced meat. I go the extra mile and personally verify the source to the best of my ability. I care a lot about these animals and support any action that leads to better lives for these loving creatures.

I won't go vegan again, for health reasons mostly but also because supporting ethically sourced meat in my opinion is even better than leaving the market entirely. It hurts those factory farmers more because those competitors get bigger and cheaper and displace them over time.

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Koda_20 t1_iqoqrqb wrote

Far worse than both of those when you consider the amounts needed and that doesn't seem like it's gonna change for a while.

You don't need much uranium (of thorium if you wanna be 2022) for the amount of energy you get.

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