Lieutenant_Joe

Lieutenant_Joe t1_j8dfdwd wrote

Reply to comment by Norgyort in Dogs in grocery stores. by Norgyort

Here’s what I can tell you. In my orientation to start working my retail location, part of our training was how to handle non-service dogs, and our directions were basically skirting around a message that essentially amounted to “if they argue, there’s nothing you can do”. We’re not legally allowed to touch guests, not even if we’re watching them walk out the doors with a television they haven’t paid for. We also are told not to call the police to handle an animal that’s not doing anything, because the police can sometimes escalate benign situations.

Also, for the record: I have had to clean up human shit from in front of the guest services desk at my workplace at 8 in the morning. Literally minutes after we opened our doors. So forgive me if I seem dismissive of your argument that dogs are more gross than humans.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j8db74s wrote

Reply to comment by Norgyort in Dogs in grocery stores. by Norgyort

Besides allergens and physical makeup, there is little difference between a toddler and a dog. Your position is inconsistent, and my conclusion is that you really just personally don’t wanna see dogs in stores and you’re cherry-picking parts of legitimate arguments not because they’re important to you, but because they’re convenient for you.

If you really want these rules enforced, send your complaints to Walmart or Delhaize, not Reddit. S’not gonna happen on current wages and benefits.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j8d9jd0 wrote

Reply to comment by Norgyort in Dogs in grocery stores. by Norgyort

The point is that if you’re making this argument, you should agree that 1. we should consider having similar legal constraints in place for young children and 2. that employees of these establishments should be incentivized to take the risk enforcing existing laws, which they are not.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j89v6hc wrote

Reply to comment by [deleted] in Dogs in grocery stores. by Norgyort

Someone in this thread blocked me for saying I’m neither paid nor treated well enough to take the kind of heat an unruly dog owner (or a Karen) would give me. Which is pretty funny.

I wonder how many retail employees they think are willing to risk injury or death for r/dogfree.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j89lf1w wrote

Reply to comment by Norgyort in Dogs in grocery stores. by Norgyort

If service dogs are fine, then why do you keep bringing up that people are allergic to dogs like it’s a valid reason to keep them out of stores? It’s not like being a service dog makes you stop spreading allergens.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j5obk1m wrote

When I was growing up, there was a house next door to my grandparents with a completely flat roof. The people who lived there didn’t stay for the winter. I sometimes wonder if they ever came back to unexpected disasters. That house was torn down in favor of one with normal sloped roofing, so I have to assume something prompted that decision.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j4crb9y wrote

…there are both, and one doesn’t necessitate the other

I’ve known plenty of drug addicts with apartments and I’ve known homeless who are clean and sober

Also sometimes clean homeless people start using because reality is so unkind that they’d kill themselves if they had to keep hacking it sober

Like I like and can relate to most of what you said but that last thing kinda hurt the message

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j4covmh wrote

This has been on my mind for awhile. I’m pretty sure the answer is “yes, and you thank your lucky stars you’re in one of the places people are fleeing to rather than from”.

My best friend has been encouraging me to leave the state. I’ve been telling him things like “it’s not my time yet,” “my mother needs me”, “I want more life experience”… but really, it’s because I don’t want to be stuck on a warmer (now or later) part of the planet when the place I left is projected to handle climate change better than most anywhere else—in the world, not just the country.

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Lieutenant_Joe t1_j3kc6ho wrote

This is from years ago at this point, and it wasn’t even accurate then. Weakest govt influence in Idaho? Try smoking a fucking joint or two on your front porch and see how long it takes to get a visit from law enforcement. Also, ugliest residents? lol.

Whoever made this either set out to annoy people, or really did think they have it all figured out.

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