“Minutes streaming” is an absolutely worthless metric to anyone that isn’t a streaming executive, and it’s not important across a show but across each viewer. It’s not the same as viewers watched, which was helpful to understand the popularity of a show relevant to other shows in the same time slot, because that would determine which shows stayed or were cancelled. “Minites viewed” gives us zero idea if a show is a success, or how well supported it is, because all shows have variable lengths and episode counts, especially in streaming. What’s the value of a billion minutes if 60% of that viewing bailed out after trying the pilot? Why should they count towards a shows success when it releases weekly episodes? What we saw with this specific show was largely viewer counts stay stagnant or even drop week to week (unless it was recovering from a previous heavier down week).

Why are they releasing minutes viewed now instead of total viewer counts? They were making it clear to everyone they started with 10 million live viewers and 29 million total viewers. They ended with less:

> The Game of Thrones prequel ended its first season with 9.3 million viewers across all platforms, down a bit from its early episodes but still the best first-night showing for an HBO season or series finale since GOT’s series ender in May 2019.

The show did well because it’s Game of Thrones. At best it maintained that audience, but it didn’t grow it over the season. House of the Dragon is a good example of both why “minutes viewed” is a poor metric, but it also appears to be a great example of how the weekly episode appointment viewing model doesn’t actually improve total viewership, and without being the one or two shows a year that gets lucky and finds hype for most of them the audience dwindles as the show goes on. With serial TV, you gotta start at the beginning. Episodic shows can grow with new audiences joining each week and not being lost. If you’ve missed the first episode of HotD, there is no point turning on HBO on a Sunday night for the next several months.

I’ll get buried because this sub is HBO’s target audience, but these numbers and this article are worthless, only intended to put “billions viewed” in the headline next to their show to try and get more viewers. We’ve gotta be smarter as a community about what we reward here, especially since every other comment thread is people complaining about the Hollywood media. These are threads that make this sub run that way. We can stop upvoting and submitting this crap, and maybe they’ll go back to real viewership numbers so we know if a show has a chance to not get cancelled. Because that’s what they are really battling: their two biggest and best shows of the last decade, GoT and Westworld, are ending terribly, either rushed or canceled. HBO has a massive trust problem growing. I don’t want to start any new series by them until I see them finish some, same expectation I’m putting on Netflix shows after Santa Clarita Diet and Teenage Bounty Hunters. When you start a serialized show you make a promise to your audience to finish the story. These streamers keep breaking that promise, and their audiences are responding with lower viewership. We gotta stop supporting the current PR driven headlines if y’all want that to change.

Lol, Roku is one of the most solidly positioned companies in the streaming market. They aren’t going anywhere. This downturn is because advertising sales are down. It has nothing to do with the software/streaming adoption, which is booming. They beat Wall Street expectations on account growth to reach 65 million. But a their mainline revenue is ads, and those purchases are apparently down as the economy buckles under inflationary pressure. This is an industry wide downturn, and Roku’s losses are smaller than the rest of the tech industry by comparison thanks to that continued account growth.

Only Netflix, Disney, Amazon, and Prime are “ahead” of them on accounts, without the intrinsic hardware advantages that Roku has. They’re getting some sweet ROI when you accidentally press that dedicated Netflix button on your Roku remote...

So when you pay for the ad free version they give you the channel with ads? All this does is give them an excuse to keep showing it first with ads, then only “ad free” once the show has aired. Meaning the first viewers will still always have to see advertising no matter which version of the service they own.

This is the wrong direction. They need to be announcing that shows will be available on the app ad free the moment they start airing on the channel if its included as part of the “ad free” tier.

To compare, imagine if HBO or Netflix made their “PREMIUM Plus” subscribers wait a day to watch without ads. That’s what Peacock’s “ad free” tier is offering us. Pay more to wait for the ad free version.

Better than the usual advertising pretending to be genuine articles; at least users are sharing stuff they like and talking about it

One of the best things about Prime is the ability to pause and see who all the actors in a scene are, with photos and character names,

Wow, that’s a lot of grief that has nothing to do with the headline. Author has a clear chip against Amazon and the show.

Tucker & Dale becoming the new Ernest is something I am open to.

Tucker & Dale vs Aliens

Tucker & Dale vs Super Villains

Tucker & Dale at the GOP Convention

The problem for me is that they’re not only taking years between seasons, but ALSO rolling out seasons weekly over months. It’ll be 3 years from the first episode of the new Thrones to the next season. They’re dragging out content and release schedules and it’s gotten really thin, to the point each service has like one show running at a time, which ain’t nearly enough for their rising prices and advertising annoyances.

Picard (spoilers) is dead at the end of his series and no one cares; they replaced him with an android, lol. There is no hope or care there.

Those shows are not great television, even before you get into their problems as Trek. SNE is thankfully a return to form. (And the person you were talking to was clearly meaning the live action shows when they said the other shows are serial, so the 3/5 thing is kinda petty for someone expressing their fondness for the positive spirit of Star Trek.)

Dude, don’t use Forbes contributors for sources, they’re glorified Reddit self posts and have almost no editorial oversight.

The “contributor” you’ve linked to misread the press release. Here is a better source for you: https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2022/06/apple-mls-deal-questions-breakdown/

The deal was for “matches on the Apple TV platform via an MLS streaming service within the app.” You’re wrong, but if that article is why then it’s understandable.

Just as long as she can still play Emma Frost when the X-Men come to the MCU...