Can't blame the girl for not being a fan of pungent nerd

I don't think you did anything wrong, it's just kinda par for the course things like this will happen, move on.

>Kyrie is a cancer and KD is a snowflake. Best to move on and reset for the future.

Sure, but it's still pretty unheard of for an actual NBA playoff team to blow it up mid season, like a redditor would.

It's actually pretty fucking shrewd the more I think about it. Most teams wouldn't do this and they leveraged it into a pretty bright future.

As a professional coach, this is what I would do~

Because they, like him, all understood what they were signing up for and accepted it by the end.

On some level, they all hated themselves the way he hated himself, so it was sorta their admission to themselves he's right and they deserved it.

This is also in stark contrast to Erin, who truly did everything to make it out of there alive, she had a will to live none of them had.

Really stylized. Completely embodies the character. Great job.

>When you can physically train more because of "grandpa's water", you tend to get more consistent jumps.

No disagreement, but then you have to make the next logical conclusion, because you can't have it both ways... They are either doping and it's getting results which then ties the hands of the judges (Hint: it's this one) or you can say they are getting favors that doesn't have to do with their skill... but not both. They wouldn't need to dope if they were getting rampant favors... they dope to ensure they have an advantage come time to look at things with a closer lens.

Then you really have to consider, you don't even know what you don't know. Do you understand how small of a world figure skating is? I am not a major player in the sport, and I personally know 5 of the 9 judges that were on the panel for the Women's free skate, two of which I competed against for years, lol. If some yahoo on reddit who is involved can know half the panel just by happenstance, what are the odds the coaches with people in the actual even know EVERYONE? I can assure you, it's 100%.

Hell, even as a developing skater myself, the number of times an official took me aside and told me things off the record couldn't even be counted on one hand. What you are describing is just part of daily life in the sport. The deeper in you are, the more everyone just knows everyone and who they know... it's just how it is, everywhere.

Do you really think the well connected US coaches, like say Artunian, are just sticking their head in the sand and don't know inside out who the people on the panel are? Or do you maybe think they have done a little greasing of the wheels also, and what Eteri does with the officials she has influence on isn't all that different then what I have personally seen coaches in the US do... you are describing a standard practice, for better or worse. Not a specific offense of the Russians.

>Medvedeva? None.

I mean, I could show you video evidence of exactly why she doesn't get a call. Just because a large group of people online feel a specific way, doesn't mean it's cheating. I am eligible to be on a technical panel, I've seen plenty of examples of her doing a "passable" lutz. It isn't a shock those who are actually on the technical panel see the same thing...

If we really want to talk about cheating, there was literally a doping scandal a year ago, one that directly correlates to two major advantages the Russians have at this moment, but this issue isn't one what is being put out on the ice. They are, for all intents and purposes, putting a lot of effort into ensuring what they do gets by, and they are throwing training time at it... and it shows.

>I wouldn't shine a light on her successes in any argument other than to illustrate how much of a vice grip Russia has over the figure skating governing body.

Her success didn't come out of no where. She still went to, skated in, and won all of those events with elements that would be scored that way to the letter of the sport. Her technique isn't my favorite either, it isn't what I personally teach, but I can't deny how they would be called in any competition in the world.

It wasn't like she was missing those elements and winning, whatever corruption there was, and there was plenty, was still predicated on those girls going and landing their programs flawlessly, which in turn means those girls are landing those jumps when the pressure was on.... consistently.

Anyways, again, the point stands. If the complaint against Levito is she jumps like a two time World Champ, you aren't grasping what was really being said in my original comment. My point was, you can rely on her to land her stuff in competition, and the arguments against were splitting hairs because they don't like the lineage of the technique...

Clearly you understand why I, as a professional in the sport, couldn't be using that line of reasoning with say... one of my own athletes. To suggest she isn't going to be fully scored, and well, would be a major disservice to your ability to parse what is actually happening in the competition.

I don't disagree that her jump technique is an offshoot of what the Russians are doing, but it's exactly why I am picking on your interpretation too, it's generalizing, rather than looking at circumstances specific to her.

she jumps similarly to Medvedeva, but if you break down their timing by frame, you are going to see an ever so slightly different decent into the air, which is resulting in Isabeau landing well over her right really consistently, allowing way more of the wear and tear to be absorbed properly.

Her technique would be a huge worry, if she didn't land properly every time over her right side, or she had issues with not being able to control her edge on a landing. She would be causing a lot more wear and tear on her body, but these are basically never issues for her. She gently lands over her Right Back outside, solidly, every time.

Then I gotta point out, Medvedeva is what, a two time world champ and an Olympic Silver? If your comparison for her technique to be considered "bad" is someone who won worlds twice... I rest my case. Her jumps are excellent, and I stand by my original statement.

Or another way to look at it, I think a lot of people would say Yuna Kim has one of the great Lutz's in Women's skating history. She bent forward a bit for torque as well (and also dealt with, and recovered from back injuries) and I wouldn't have ever considered her jumps to be risky.

e: Btw, this is a touchy subject with me, coaches who teach inferior technique at the behest of trying to sell skaters something that isn't real is a real sore spot with me, that has directly contributed to the loss of business, and close relationships I have had within the sport. On some level, I will never get over that. I would scream from the mountain top if I felt this girls jumps were truly sending her on a path to a career ender... it's just not the case here. If I felt that she was a puberty away from losing it all, I would happily boast as such, she is gonna transition just fine.

I think you both are generalizing to much, and not looking at other factors, like how she is landing her jumps, or her rotational axis. She is actually completing these jumps with a little room to spare, and well over her right side consistently. she is effectively masking a lot of the wear and tear that is traditional with people who employ similar technique.

I don't know what she is doing in practice right now, but presumably, as long as she is just wasting her body away doing quads all day, she is going to grow into her triples just fine. She doesn't have the hallmarks that are consistent with losing jumps. If she sustains injury, my first guess would be over training, rather than one that develops from her jumps.

I've been to it, but I don't really like posting there regularly. I actually left the sub some time ago.

I've been involved with the sport, as a competitor or a coach for over 30 years now. It's more fun for me to talk about skating when it breaks a threshold like being on sports, than I actually to spend time in skating spaces, if that makes sense... I've spent my entire life in skating spaces, and I will have repeats of every convo that happens in that sub, but in real life also.

Why exactly are her jumps problematic?

They are consistent, clearly fully rotated (By the standard with which she will be judged) and she maintains impeccable center over her right side as she rotates. Her coaches have done an excellent job with her jumps.

She is skating to the letter of the law, and she is executing that plan perfectly. I fail to see your argument without some more detail.

Yeah, it's been a drought for sure.

Still, I would be shocked if the US didn't have the most all time medals between World and Olympic events for the Women. It's a pretty storied history.

US has tons of champions at both Worlds and Olympics, the highest titles in the sport. It was this girls first National title at the Senior level (highest level of competition)

The thing she won is given out every year. It's like winning the game that lets you go to the World Series, or the Super Bowl, if you want to give it an easy sporting equivalent.

Thanks~ Not every day there is a figure skating post on reddit, and as a lifer in that sport, it's always fun to chime in here.

She was phenomenal. certainly a cut above the rest in the country at the moment. While she certainly has some areas that will grow with experience, she is already executing really well crafted programs with amazing jump technique. You feel like you can rely on her to land her big items when it counts... something our ladies have been having a little trouble with in recent years.

Anyways, great skate, well deserved title.

I assume we will be getting another first time US title holder on the Men's side also. Can't see anyone touching that Quad Axel.

Yeah, as a fan of stand up, it blows my mind how people can't understand how talking in a way that isn't normally socially acceptable, can be really fucking fun. You get to bend the rules any which way, as an art form

Being true isn't even ancillary to what is going on, it's straight up not even required, and often times would just get in the way.

I can't even echo this enough times. There are elite athletes who have depression. It really isn't as simply as this one simple fix. Personally I agree, calling it an antidote is irresponsible, it's part of enabling someone to ignore the real problem.

Yeah, but don't let this fool you into thinking it's the only solution either. I was a very high level athlete, I have been battling depression since age 15. I know elite athletes who also battle depression. There are limits on what just exercise can do, and it shouldn't actually be floated by as a replacement for actually getting treatment for your symptoms.

only?

Could be, but generosity could also be satisfying a need for the narcissist in question. For example if having more means to give more equals higher status, there are really good reasons to be generous.

You sure did

You can critque the show all you want, but you can get critqued on your criteque, it's the whole point of this. We are all sharing opinions here, not spitting truths.

Exactly, I wasn't tuning into Breaking Bad, because I was looking for rational intelligently measures responses, I wanted someone to go buck wild, so I could live vicariously through that, lol.