I think get your point, however, to say it’s ‘evolutionarily beneficial’, implies there is a driving force, whether you want to call it God or Meaning, you’ve provided a driving force. It’s like saying natural selections goal is to survive. Natural selection makes better survivors survive, but doesn’t make things survive.

What I was trying to say was more a recognition of a pattern and a hopeful attempt at extrapolating the pattern to all things. Maybe incorrect, but hopeful, that the universe would perpetuate itself by means of its very being. Foolish, but hopeful.

How I came to this was via stating that humans preserve themselves by living. A human who decides to live, makes the conscious decisions that extend their life. They arnt trying to extend it, it’s simply a bi-product of them living. Choosing to find shelter and food is to satisfy hunger and comfort but I don’t think people shop with “yes this will extend my life” in mind.

So the claim I was making, is that if humans and animals and cells, and maybe DNA and RNA, extend their lives not by trying to, but just by existing in their own ways, that possibly, all things extend their own existence as a byproduct of their existence. Maybe, just maybe, all things further their existence not by choosing to, but as a side effect of existence. For if not, then you would simply cease to exist whenever you weren’t trying to exist.

Thoughts?

Ur right, thank you

Does anyone believe that the universe preserves itself just as how humans do?

Personally, I think that since humans preserves themselves, animals preserve themselves, cells preserve themselves, RNAs preserves themselves, that probably all things preserve themselves just by being themselves. Likewise the universe preserves itself just by being itself. So this is probably one of infinite timelines. Does something change in the future? IDK, but there’s always gonna be another one.

This is based on an assumption though. I can’t see there being nothing forever since there is currently something and this must have come from something, nothing, itself atleast right? I mean, I am here currently…

Alright, but what is the point of DNA replicating itself. I wonder about DNA and if it made the decision to keep itself alive. It became aware of its own existence and perpetrated it. If not, then we’re did the self Replication start. If we follow it, particles would therefore attempt to maintain their state and form larger particles as a product of their maintaining. So, if particles maintain themselves, then, is the Big Bang, an attempt at the universe maintaining itself infinitely (assuming another one starts after the end of this universe).

I find it hard to follow the person maintaining themselves to the DNA as I have no concept of DNA’s consciousness just the idea that some RNA self replicate. States return to maximum entropy. The most stable form of the system. When everything is stable though, nothing will happen, or maybe something does happen in stability. In stability, one movement could mean a massive reaction.