NWO_Eliminator

NWO_Eliminator t1_isxcp36 wrote

Carefully inspect your room for mold. Walls, ceilings, electrical fixtures, ect. If you have access to the attic, check there, too.

If you have carpet, consider replacing it with hardwood flooring and clean regularly. Generally people are allergic to what's trapped in the carpet and padding.

Get a pillow that's washable and wash it in the hottest water. I hand wash all 3 of mine in the bath tub at 150F using laundry detergent and oxygen bleach. Let them soak for a couple of hours.

8

NWO_Eliminator t1_isg58mm wrote

I got this information from the engineer directly. I don't know what else to tell you.

Spending extra money on an appliance use to be a guarantee for a better built, longer lasting design. That is not the case anymore.

1

NWO_Eliminator t1_isg3uv2 wrote

>Are you sure? I pretty much have the same model in one of the buildings I manage and has been working fine under heavy use for 15 years.

If your washer is 15 years old then it has the direct drive transmission which is a completely different animal than this one.

Commercial fridges are all garbage?

Well, if you have 4+ thousand dollars burning a hole in your pocket, they may be reliable. I'm not up to speed on the durability of new commercial refrigerators. Modern day electronics could have changed that.

Miele is also well-known for going fine for 20+ years (both for dishwashers and fridges).

Looks around here and on other forums. There's been complaints about the electronics prematurely dying on newer Miele dishwashers. Same goes with their recent vacuum cleaners. I'm not familiar with their refrigerators.

1

NWO_Eliminator t1_ise4074 wrote

No, they were screamed at to cheapen the design or fear going out of business. It had nothing to do with costs.

Over 20 years ago, I wanted to be an engineer to build quality appliances because I already saw the writing on the wall. In the downturn of 2001, I ended up working with some engineers at an electrical company (slave wages and working conditions) that were laid off who did that for a living. They told me how the real world works and set me straight. Thankfully, I dodged that bullet. Before that, I was a big gear head and wanted to work on cars for a living but during the last portion of my college schooling, I talked to a mechanic who owned his own business for 28 years and he sternly warned me not to get into the business. It's hard dirty work, being exposed to horrible chemicals, exhaust fumes, crappy working conditions, and extremely difficult to keep up with newer evolving technologies. The pay also does not even begin to reflect the work unless you own your own business. That's the only way to make in the automotive world without going poor and destroying your body before retirement age. Another dodged bullet.

−1

NWO_Eliminator t1_ise2z87 wrote

I've been heavily involved in the appliance business for 20 years, I know how it works. That's why I outlifted my house with vintage appliances decades ago that had the best proven track of reliability and performance (luckily the good ones have both features). I also have knowledge in how they work, repair, and restore them for fun as a side hobby.

Both washers posted are equal pieces of shit. Everything Samsung makes in the appliance market is junk. The other Whirlpool commercial washer has a POS transmission with shitty plastic gearing that's widely undersized, along with shitty shaft seals that die within a couple of years. Everybody goes bonkers on this site for the Maytag 575 washer but it's a fucking piece of shit (The commercial washer posted is the same design as the 575)

https://www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/TD/TD-VIEWTHREAD.cgi?82490

Whirlpool still uses the same design dryer (29" top filter) they introduced in 1966 but cheapened the ever living hell out of it the last 20 years.

Speed queen washers were mediocre at best in the 80's, 90's, and early 2000's. When GE discontinued its Filter Flo design washer in 1995, Maytag discontinued its helical transmission design in 2006 (back when it was in Newton Iowa) after Whirlpool acquired it, and Whirlpool discontinued its Direct Drive Transmission in 2010 is when Speed Queen went from "meh" to the top. There was no design changes to make Speed Queen superior, everything around them became cheaply designed junk. Speed Queen TC5000 washer was riddled with control board issues to the point they had to rename the model# to TC5003. It also had some transmission issues using plastic parts that got fixed updating them with metal ones. I just hate the severe restrictions on that model with virtually no control of the water level, zero control over the timer, and dumbed down water temperatures. Speed Queens TR series is junk and doesn't wash worth a damn. Their front load washers are well built and easy to service but they don't include an internal heater like all other models now do. That a big deal considering it's very expensive price tag. Speed Queen dryers are "meh" and typically run very hot.

I could write even longer paragraphs about dishwashers and refrigerators but I'll stop here. I will say that Whirlpool used to build a very good dishwasher (minus the crappy control boards that died often from the mid 90's to the present) and the best refrigerators on the planet. However, they radically changed those designs the past few years and their reliability is not better than the typical junk made today. There is NO reliably designed refrigerator at the moment but hopefully someone will step up to the plate. These are all planned obsolescence moves though cheapness.

2

NWO_Eliminator t1_isdcfdx wrote

That's true, but most would be happy to spend more for a fridge with a longer life and less, if not zero, repair calls. Nothing like that exists today.

That's a big factor for a working person having to take time waiting for a repairmen to show up and diagnose the problem. There's usually another scheduled appointment required after the part is ordered and arrives. In between, your appliance is down. If it's a critical appliance like a washer, you're now taking time and money to the laundromat. If it's a refrigerator, you're living out of coolers and throwing away a large portion of your food unless you have a spare one in the garage (which I highly recommend). The whole scenario is a major inconvenience. Build a better product, make it reliable, and people will happily fork over the extra money.

1

NWO_Eliminator t1_isda3fr wrote

Appliance durability/reliability mostly peaked in the 70's with some designs into the 80's. Electronics are nice when engineers have their say and extra money is designed into them for longer life. Some of 80's electronics are still going 30+ years later simply because they were much better engineered. That is most certainly not the case today. Control boards are designed on the cheap for maximum profit in 3rd world countries under not-so-great conditions with poor QA. Some manufactures obsolete them in as little as 3-5 years after product line has ran its course and the owner is forced to buy a new appliance when it fails. Not only is that planned obsolescence to a "T", it's very wasteful and hard on the environment. I'm friends with engineers and they're screamed and yelled at, even threatened with their job, when making a good long lasting design saying the company will be out of business if the design isn't cheapened. This is not an exaggeration, it's very real.

Autos are a different story. Older vehicles are more simple but require a bit more attention and better diag skills although modern ignition systems can be implemented, giving them nearly the same maintenance schedule of a 90's vehicle. The mid to late 90's through the early 2000's for Toyota was the peak of simplicity and reliability. Today, their product is still good but the insane complication in the electronics department is the caveat. When I went with my mother couple of years ago to scope out a new car, the salesman asked her what she was currently driving. It was a 21 year old Toyota Camry with over 300,000 miles. The Toyota salesman laughed and said none of their new cars would last that many decades and miles without electronics and transmission failures.

1

NWO_Eliminator t1_isd3rqt wrote

Making a design as cheap, light, and flimsy as possible with a built in short lifespan IS planned obsolescence! My 50 year old Maytag washer/dryer are still going strong. I could still get every single part for it up until 8 years ago (Whirlpool bought out Maytag and discontinued some of their parts) and still get most of the running gear that's important. Dishwasher is the same age. Yes, they were very expensive during their time period but were designed with reliability and serviceability in mind. Also, Maytag still cranked out parts for everything they made going back 50 years. You could still get every single part for their very first automatic washer in 1999 that was made in 1949. Nobody does that anymore.

https://www.postlandfill.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/PlannedObMeme-960x675.jpg

10

NWO_Eliminator t1_ir8nufs wrote

Surprised anyone wants to the listen to the radio these days. A bunch of crappy music with a playlist of the same 20-ish songs on repeat, loaded with a bunch of annoying commercials in between. I haven't tuned into the airwaves since 2001 (Thank you Napster, Limewire, Audiogalaxy, Kazaa, and Youtube.)

You may have to visit a thrift shop and find an older model. I see them regularly. They're probably better built than what's available today.

2