#5... True, but the wages here are equivalent to Mississippi with a California cost of living. Those west coast cities are a lot more affordable. And there are presumably people there who aren't old, rich and white, which you will not find in VT.

VT does not exist in a vacuum, as much as some of us would like it to. When climate change destabilizes the world, VT is not going to be safe, it's going to be overrun.

The word is out, the jersey gentrification is on, vt is dead and gone. Even the relatively chill VT of 2015 is gone. Now it's big money, big entitlement.

It is for them, they have the cash.

That sucks. Sorry to hear that. This sort of thing points at a really bleak future for VT.

Not sure why this gets down voted, other than the gun thing. VT is not scary at all, no need to be armed. It's Church St, not Bakhmut. Everything else about this is spot in.

Except it's only "beautiful" compared to New Jersey. It's not like VT is Montana.

You forgot trustfund.

If you have a work from home job or a trustfund. If one of the "ingredients to make a good life" is stable housing, that is not attainable for those of us living on wages we earn here.

This is not going to be fixed. Either VT completely transforms into NJ/southern New England or it dies. We are headed to the whole state being a version of stowe. Old, white, and rich.

We've always been the destination for crunchy hippie types with lots of money in the northeast. It's not a new thing, work from home just totally ruined the state. If we had people of all different types moving here for jobs, that would be great. We don't. We have rich white people from NJ and that's about it.

One can imagine a post office where there are only a couple of employees and they are in their 70s. This is the future of VT. We can't have services if we don't have houses for the people who provide those services.

Would not move to VT. Looking to leave. It is becoming a very homogenous place where people have lots of money and lots of entitlement. You will not be able to pay for housing on money you earn here. If you don't have additional income, I would not recommend coming.

Huh, must have missed that one. From one piece of shit to another, I hope you are able to work off your trust fund and feel better.

I'm sorry to hear that happened, but it didn't happen in Vermont.

I think there's a specific reason VT is "the only state that's trying" related to the amount of funding per capita but I don't disagree.

I think so? Thanks for checking!

It definitely felt weird.

Haha damn. I bet. We used to have other jets, and the city airport flight path is right over head. You better hope you don't get F-35s. Idk how they compare to artillery so I may be wrong. Passenger planes are not so bad. The old jets were loud. They were F-16 or F-14 I think. F-35 is a whole other thing.

Manchester is like stowe. It's technically in Vermont but it in no way resembles Vermont. I went there for the first time recently (grew up in northern VT). Holy shit. Such a strange place. I absolutely do not see the attraction to places like that. The Lincoln stuff is cool, I guess. Otherwise, eww.

Across the lake houses can be had for under $100k.

That's the difference. In California it's big news all the time. Obviously they have a ton of unhoused people and that forces the issue but California is taking real steps, like penalizing towns that don't build affordable housing, that VT will never take. Just like back in the day when stowe went nuts over the education spending law, wealthy VT will never build for real people.

Stumbled into? I get where you're going with this and I don't totally disagree but people moving here can't be oblivious to what's going on.

Lol, it's a reddit fight. I don't care. I could have been more clear, sure. My apologies. It does sound arrogant to say I know more but in this case I do. There's some nonsense in the original post about an emergency housing board. That doesn't exist. Lots of sort of correct info in this thread. It's funny.

The self righteousness is a little much.

Ha! Likewise bro. You're making shit up. If you're an advocate you're doing more harm than good. When people who know this stuff hear you talking about people dying in the elements, they know you're full of shit. That hasn't happened in a decade or more. Another clueless person on a self righteous rant. When did you get here from jersey?