It's called title washing, and it is shit behavior. Once a title is branded, that's it. It needs to be known and disclosed.

A couple had such a car, and it was repaired incorrectly. A traffic accident occurred, and the husband had to listen to his wife burn to death because of that incorrect repair. Passing something like that along to unsuspecting buyers should be considered criminal.

>that's why it is, in fact, a criminal traffic offense (yes, a felony)

Citation needed.

20mph over the posted limit isn't a felony ANYWHERE in the US.

I'm not arguing for or against speeding, I'm merely pointing out you are saying and repeating a falsehood.

>20 over the speed limit needs to be a felony traffic violation, on any road, period. It is in most states...

20 over is not a felony in most states, in fact, I don't think it's a felony in a single state. Also, advocating for creating more felons, by way of traffic infractions, is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

https://wa.gov/how-to-guides/become-resident

Right here on the state website.

>About fuxking time we start writing this wrong.

Also appears to be time for https://www.hookedonphonics.com/

Edited to add the context of the now deleted post.

>Then why are you commenting about the Oregon bottle dropoff?

Because this is a Washington sub, and I lived there for near to 4 decades and still have an interest in the area (in real property and in practicality as I'm there regularly) Furthermore, I've returned cans in Oregon, and the system is functionally the same as what I have to deal with hith in Michigan. This is also a discussion of a post about a bill being lobbied for in Washington, so not even spefic to Oregon.

>That is misleading as fuck. You are talking about a completely different system there.

That's your impression, so I'm not going to shit on it. But, they are the exact same equipment (I have spent a ton of time in the Columbia River Gorge area and have dealt with can return in rural areas and in Portland.

That is the 2nd time you have made assumptions , and it bit you. Maybe stop doing that?

>In many parts of Oregon, they don't, though.

So, no curbside recycle pickup at all? Paper is just tossed? Non-depoait glass/aluminum/plastic too? Sounds like 1981, I'd advise passing on that regression.

>Plus, they have less material that needs to be picked up.

Less isn't zero.

You never addressed a ton of the problems I presented (closed kiosks with a car full of cans/bottles, safety, time and money costs, dirty carts), all of which exist regardless of geography. You came into this saying you didn't know, amd were just asking questions (though it would appear you live in the Vancouver, WA area based on post history, so it stands to reason you're more experienced than you're letting on).

Just be transparent. You are a cheap ass who wants their $9.17 a month back, damn the consequences.

Anyway, good chat. It was nice to engage in some rhetoric.

I'm out.

>I live in an urban area, not rural like yourself

I live in Detroit.

>I could just drop off my containers when I went to the store, right?

More than once, I've gone to the store, and the kiosk isn't open. Now you need groceries and you've got a car full of trash.

I've addressed all of your impressions, and they are just not the what winds up playing out. Seriously, take the L and trust a primary source.

>I'd still be spending less than the $9.17 a month.

This is a red herring. What about the recycle bin for paper and such? I have that here and pay for it, but I still have to hassle with can deposits. I could not return them and forgo my deposit because of the hassle, which is completely incongruent with the intent that it will increase recycling.

Seriously, take the L.

Michigan has the highest deposit rates in the county. SE Michigan is also covered in litter. Those two things have zero correlation.

You've openly stated you've never returned cans/bottles, so you're not really qualified to opine on the subject matter as it pertains to the practicality of the experience.

Currently, my household gets its groceries delivered, so can return for me is a special, often dedicated trip. It is (roughly) a 15-mile round trip to do so, so $2.75 in gas.

We do grocery delivery now partly due to can/bottle return. Do you know how quickly you want the whole system burned to the ground when you load up the cans when you go to pick up groceries to find out the kiosk is broken/closed? Now it's an hour long, 45 mile ordeal, thst costs $6.00 in gas because you've go to go to another store.

How about the cart? You want to do your grocery shopping in a cart someone (me) just used to haul 6 bags of cans/bottles in?

Then, there is the system itself. Every store is required to take any can back (think QFC had to take Safeway Select cans back, even though they don't sell them). Only QFC doesn't regularly download updated lists from the state or willfully excludes other brands' cans. They will still technically take them, but you have to go to the service desk and wait in line and do that whole song and dance. No thank you.

Safety.
I'm a 250lb bearded dude that knows the rules for avoiding getting into shit. I was nearly stabbed returning cans once by someone, unfortunately, having a mental crisis. It takes a tremendous amount of privlage to avoid this for many people.

Those are just a few of the madningly frustrating aspects. Curbside pickup is an exceptional value for dollar at $9.17/month. Especially since you'll likely still be paying most of that for paper/plastic/no-deposit curbside pick up.

Edit to add last scentence.

>Or even better, wait in line and get paid for my containers.

You aren't getting paid. You're returning a good and getting a DEPOSIT back. So that means every bottle and can suddenly becomes $.05-$.10 more to buy.

Moved from WA to MI, and the bottle/can deposit is all kinds of bullshit wrapped into one inconvenient outdated model.

From machine infrastructure at grocers (always a couple broken, and the grocer has to dedicate square footage to something that they can't profit off of), the emissions and cost (time and fuel) from consumers, and the filth (can return kiosks are gross no matter what).

Oregon can get bent (on this and the gas pumping issue).

Use something like a Simpson snap togglen as large as can be accommodated. 2 of those plus 2 screws into a stud and you should be okay.

Do not buy any vehicle without a title.

There is no need for a WSP inspection when registering an out of state vehicle.

Tahoma

It's impressive, really. /u/pala4833 managed to malign indigenous persons and those suffering from Tourette's Syndrome in one comment.

Show's not only their anglo-supremecy BS, but that they are also an ableist who likely hasn't had to suffer the slightest adversity in life so they are okay on shitting on any person that is 'other'.

That's awesome, champ! No, really, good for you, little buddy.

Do you need me to send a card on your behalf to anyone, sport?

The flip side of that is that someone remembers you for a profoundly meaningful act of kindness that you may not recall.

Tahoma

No, you will need footings (as others have pointed out the concrete is insilufficient) at a minimum to build a permitted gargare.

Depending on your municipality, a demolition permit may be required along with construction and electrical permit.

TAHOMA