Those are indie games, not the kinda games I’m talking about. They’re the equivalent to fan made short films and half of them are porn games tbh. We aren’t including those so we don’t have to include porno films and shorts.

You can’t say that most games are trash since you haven’t played them, I can give you recommendations if you’d like but don’t use others ill informed opinions to justify your own.

Kojima is a visionary although 50% of the time his visionary ideas are awful. I wouldn’t even consider myself a massive fan of his but he was the best example I could think of for the post.

Taking 2018 as a sample, there were far more impactful game stories than movies. You said yourself that you only play a couple games a year, anyone who dives into both regularly will tell you.

There are fewer games released compared to movies because they take much more effort, that’s why there is usually more good movies. If the ratios weren’t so heavily offset then you would have a point

That’s getting more into the game design aspects of the conversation which wouldn’t be fair to compare as that’s too far into one medium. However, for a couple years now my favourite stories of the year have come from video games.

God of War in 2018, Outer Wilds & Death Stranding in 2019, The Last of Us 2 in 2020. All phenomenal stories with direction to match.

Most are pretty run of the mill but I mean there were ~50 Christmas Hallmark movies released just this year alone. It’s comes with every media.

I like this argument and to an extent agree with it. In Kojima’s podcast with Jordan Peele they discussed how they inspired each other through their work. Like I’ve said to others, I’m not saying there should be direct comparisons but only that they should be discussed in the same sphere as each other.

I don’t think it’s unfair or cheapens the artform by talking about them in the same light. I do think that it opens up each medium to one another.

I also wouldn’t say that it’s lumping one into the other, it would be similar to talking about films and tv. Intrinsically different with shared aspects.

I disagree that it’s entirely different when animated films have been nominated for awards alongside some of the best films recently.

I’m not saying that they should be considered an extension of film or that game directors should be directly compared with film directors but I do believe there is a conversation to be had.

I can see that argument, good points.

Considering Netflix is going to implement ads, I wouldn’t say we are too far off

Like I said, for the most part I would agree but it’s not like The Incredibles didn’t have fantastic shots or Into The Spider-Verse wasn’t beautiful in its own right

It’s closer to 4 hours. Movies are a different media to tv, they’re made completely differently and they’re supposed to be. Saying that, it’s not like I didn’t like the movie but it undeniably dragged

I like that they let him have the run time he wanted but ffs, I bet even he knows it dragged on way too long for it’s own good.