> If an impaired driver is in full self-driving mode, would they still get a DUI?

Why should anyone care if they do or don't get a DUI? Is this about punishing alcoholics or saving lives?

>Drivers who are distracted by their phones when actually driving their vehicle will likely do exactly the same thing when in self-driving mode. But again, they’re supposed to be constantly monitoring the screen for real-time data on the car’s operating functions. Same argument as the DUI.

Same question, do you care more about punishing distracted drivers or saving lives? These are two separate concepts, law enforcement is not the same as accident prevention technology even if they might be attempting the same end result.

>Technology is fallible. We’ll see.

So are people, as you're demonstrating now. This is something that's already been heavily studied:

https://www.nhtsa.gov/technology-innovation/automated-vehicles-safety

I was pretty fortunate to be taking a law and ethics class as part of my master's with someone who's close family member was killed when their Tesla collided with the side of a semi truck that made an improper turn. The story was widely publicized and what got reported was so far off from what any official investigation found actually happened based off of evidence. This was all at least 5 years ago, and there's been a ton of research done by NHTSA on the tech making a strong case for exactly the opposite of what you're saying.

I'm genuinely curious if you're sitting on some credible evidence of cars with automated driving tech actually being more dangerous than those without, because from where I'm sitting it seems like you're going off the same type of "logic" people use to argue against seatbelts saving lives.

Don't worry, if the cops think you're "reasonable" they'll just let you go. No room for extreme bias in enforcement there!

Not real burning buildings either, only training burning buildings.

Like I get what your saying, 17 is absolutely not too young to start off firefighting training for 17 year olds that are interested, but choose your words more carefully lmao.

IDGAF how the hivemind is voting here though, your mind is in the right place. Though they are minors in a legal sense treating 17 year olds that have a strong sense of vocation like children when it comes to developing useful real world skills is exactly why we end up having to collectively deal with 25+ year old children when they eventually burn out.

Not so much that they're that heavy relative to a vehicle but there's a smaller contact patch on the wheels.

There will always be deficiencies, I think that's the point they're making. The US is weird about grading where anything less than an A is unacceptable.

I'm not really seeing it here but these threads tend to dive into people shitting on the US's infrastructure (which by most rankings is some of the best in the world) because an organization who's job it is to be critical about our infrastructure issues a report that's critical on our infrastructure.

That said this state's infrastructure does fucking blow. Like I grew up in Ohio and thought ours was bad but moving to PA was eye-opening. Thank god our state police are funded though, that's something no other state has figured out how to pay for without dipping into money that's supposed to go to road maintenance /s.

Hard disagree, John Brown was hung for treason.

This simple "everyone is either all good or all bad" type of thinking is exactly why we shouldn't be cutting education requirements in history and civics lol.

Or margarine being one molecule away from plastic, I can't find it documented online but vividly remember watching that when my mom had her show on in the morning. I say this fully aware of all the good Oprah has done in the world; but she was basically Joe Rogan for bored housewives.

As long as it's truly the same product this is one of the most often repeated but unsubstantiated claims I've seen here.

Certain brands will make different products at different price points and sell them at different stores (TVs are a prime example of this), but a traditional Carhartt jacket is going to be the same regardless of where it's bought.

Walmart also doesn't sell Carhartt in their stores to my knowledge. Walmart.com maybe, but that's more third parties using their website to sell than Walmart themselves.