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Orc_ t1_j5az2i0 wrote

No, I attributed an actual effective legal system with the concept of the state, not to capitalism. Same thing happens with resources, i.e. The Tragedy of The Commons.

I think you don't understand how centralization is not communistic as it takes power away from the people and into a few hands, that's just a government, dude...

You really think under anarchism only a small group of people can work and develope AI under a closed-source?

Communism isn't when free food and nothing else.

It's about all aspects of life, information and developement. When everybody owns all tech they all have access to it.

You seem to have encounted a problem with your own system, that's not my problem, you go ahead and talk yourself out of this one, but you can't, one way or the other you gonna end up with something that looks like a state and congratulations you just screwed it up yet again.

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Orc_ t1_j5ad6m7 wrote

I do I've studied it a lot Recently I've been reading Kropotkin and that's basically one of the only authors I have left I've gone through 72 books on it for around 8 years. Basically it falls under the umbrella un anarchist systems where nothing can be centralized, pretty much all technology said society would create would be open-source.

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Orc_ t1_j58qb6j wrote

You should see the moral barriers to technology of an open and egalitarian society without capitalism (spoilers: there would be none).

The only thing holding Google back was fear of legal consequences, now that OpenAI has "paved a way" they can watch out for risks more closely.

Under communism, communalism or anarchism AI would have no moral barriers. In fact crypto-anarchism online is really hard to setup because as soon as they put up decentralized "shops" or forums they get full cp so the creators have to dial back and centralize their system yet again just to stop that. Rinse and repeat.

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Orc_ t1_j3jalwx wrote

Not really because I'm not comparing anything against bots I'm comparing your premise against history then extrapolating from that.

You will find 99/100 war crimes in the last 100 years weren't even sanctioned by the tops brass.

Bots follow orders, soldiers follow orders on top of being emotional and erratic.

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Orc_ t1_j3borz0 wrote

> they have a way more advanced tech behing the curtains

not in batteries, thats for sure, that whole area of tech if bottlenecked by the laws of physics. Even nano-batteries that I read about made by nano-structures had the capacity to be charged quite rapdily BUT the energy density continues to be ABYSMAL.

Meaning we never really gonna get something like a T-800 ever, you'd have to run that bish with a tether like something out of Evangelion.

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Orc_ t1_iytzttr wrote

You joke but the stolen data used for identity fraud, known as "fullz" is creepy as fuck.

There's a chance they have your full name (including mother's maiden name), DBO, your entire history of residences, your credit score and to top it all off there's your credit card information along with your email WITH password.

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Orc_ t1_iydq8r1 wrote

> If a hundred or so years from now we end up as slaves to a super intelligent AI

Dumb assumption, why would barely-clever monkeys be "slaves" we would simply be ignored. There's nothing we can contribute to just a being, it would be as a God.

> It will be because enough people like you thought it was a good idea to try developing AI that it was enabled through public opinion.

I wouldn't just "think" it's a good idea, I would go to war for it.

Just because you form your opinions based on mass-produces media (shitty scifi) doesn't mean the rest of us should cower in fear of technology. Independent sentient AI isn't even possible.

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Orc_ t1_iy4z49x wrote

> We already know they wont be labeled as ai songs and people will pass them off as their own just like whats already happening with art.

GOOD.

The democratization of art is exploding and eventually it will be automated.

Infinite iterations of artistic pieces, art, music, movies, games.

Most of us are consumers anyway, not artists, we never cared about what's behind the scenes.

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