PalPubPull

PalPubPull t1_j04i35y wrote

Absolutely. This seems like a weird analogy, but I've been obsessed with interrogation videos recently. I often see interrogators who are ineffective and effective, and then during one of the videos I learned a famous interrogation quote along the lines of "If you're arguing with them, you've already lost."

It psychologically makes a lot of sense. And I feel it's the same with everyday interactions.

Of course the interrogator empathizing with a murderer/rapist/child porn criminal finds it disgusting and worthy of punishment. Also not for a second am I relating someone with differing views equitable to these criminals. However, the point is they can have an ongoing discussion with them, even though they have the exact opposite views. Their motives are different than you or me, and even in the conversation they're clearly against those views, but they can understand how they came to have these views.

Through conversational techniques, they can inform someone of their rights that they don't need to talk to them in any capacity (in fact an interrogation would be thrown out in a second if there's any indication they don't understand their rights), but over and over and over the criminals disregard their rights to try and talk their way out of a situation, due to the interrogators technique. Then, the same criminal insistent on hiding their crimes, over and over and over, completely confess to the crime, their motive, and how they did it.

I find it fascinating, and not too dissimilar to talking to someone with a different viewpoint. Of course it's often not as black and white as these criminals, as in the basis of their views have merit in one way or the other, and often I learn things I never would have discussing things with them, but ultimately it just goes to show empathizing is 10000x more effective than just attacking someone, as it opens the door for actual conversation rather than instantly attacking the other person.

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PalPubPull t1_j0002w1 wrote

I feel ya.

Particularly after Trump won, and after having countless arguments with close friends and family about our differing political views, I pretty much settled on empathizing with them as it was the only way I could even get my foot in the door for an actual conversation rather than us just regurgitating what we've heard from our own sources.

It kind of sucks, because I have pretty strong views on certain issues, but the same talking points that make so much sense to me also come across as attacks toward them. I realized presenting issues the way they were presented to me is completely ineffective in changing their minds without first empathizing with them.

Edit : e.g. the other response to your original comment will lead to nothing but a back and forth of your opinions without empathizing first. Redditors might back one of you more than the other, but it's not going to change either of your minds.

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PalPubPull t1_izqbcbw wrote

Is that all from that one sign? It looks like the light pollution covers a couple miles from a 100ft screen.

I don't live where it bothers us so I'm genuinely asking if that's all from one sign, or just the general light pollution from the Sunshine/Campbell area.

I only ask as I drive by it every morning (before 5am), and it's bright, but not like a nuisance and I'm curious of a before and after if it's available.

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PalPubPull t1_izq360s wrote

Bagwell lights are probably the most famous in Springfield! Someone posted an interactive Christmas lights map not too long ago also.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1h7JSpKKMyqpGO3ynAf7ehxg5lOOhvSw&ll=37.193755937605886%2C-93.26274573753214&z=13

I followed one of these a few years ago and was a little confused and disappointed, as in a lot of them were just basic Xmas lights on a house or none at all. But this was around 2018 and I imagine the recently updated is probably better.

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PalPubPull OP t1_iyp7cxm wrote

Absolutely agree. The speed limits don't help my case though.

They always raise from 50 to 60 mph like two seconds before it turns to a passing lane, and I always feel like any driver who isn't aware of that just thinks I'm speeding up to prevent them from passing rather than matching the speed limit.

I almost feel like Republic to Aurora is some weird social experiment trying to make commuters angry. Billings is a wild horse. 60mph to 45 mph to 30mph to 45mph to 60mph in like a 1/2 mile. Never traveled a highway similar to it personally.

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PalPubPull OP t1_iyp068q wrote

I feel that way at times too. Due to somewhat recent events I've been a bit more anxious from the tailgating, and remembered a question from my CDL driving test.

For fun, I'll give you the same multiple choices the test asked me for dealing with a tailgating driver.

Do you -

A.) Flash brakes and use turn signal indicating to let them pass

B.) Progressively slow down until they pass

C.) Pull over to the side of the road with hazards blinking to let them pass

D.) Point your finger out your window in the direction you want them to pass

I was kind of surprised at the correct answer

According to the test, the correct answer is >!B!<

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PalPubPull OP t1_iyopaun wrote

My car has what is called adaptive cruise control and it can also tell the distance between you and the driver in front of you. Adaptive cruise control is when it matches the cars speed in front of you. 120 yards is the limit. Even with 100 yards at 60-70mph, 100 yards is about a 3 second delay which is what's recommended, and not incredibly excessive.

Agree with the left lane opinion though. Unfortunately there's only a few opportunities between the three opportunities of passing where the left lane is even an option.

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PalPubPull t1_ix0uyj5 wrote

Reply to comment by Dbol504 in Never by Stonkatron69

Grew up as a Kickapoo kid around that time, can confirm.

Exceptions - Haunted houses, Springfield 8, Nature center, Killian and Lake Country sports complexes, Christmas parade, Dickerson Park zoo, the fair

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PalPubPull t1_iwx6cdp wrote

I don't know the answer so I'm sorry for that, but will say trying to sell on Facebook Marketplace recently has been more detective work than an easy transaction for me.

At least in that department scammers have gotten better. Hopefully, someone has a valid suggestion. As far as I'm aware Ebay still seems legit.

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PalPubPull t1_iw9ucqd wrote

Reply to comment by arbitrarytrombone in Best bar? by arbitrarytrombone

You're gosh darn right they do! I love yagerbombs!

"Hold...We're building rapport"

Edit: I get it. This bit isn't as funny as I thought it. I'll stop.

For a serious answer I don't know how the downtown scene has changed, but I loved Patton Alley Pub. It's been at least a decade since I've been there, but at a younger age I felt it was a good environment. It wasn't a club, but it wasn't a hole in the wall, which Springfield has many of both of those if that's more along the lines of what you're looking for. If Patton Alley is still the same, I feel like it's a solid starter pub.

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PalPubPull t1_iw9aqdt wrote

How could you not be super into beer if you haven't tried it yet? You're not 21?

Don't worry I'm not with the FBI, YEET LMFAO BRUH

"Hold on the invasion, I think I've gained their trust"

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