RedLeafRoy
RedLeafRoy t1_jbnrtdc wrote
Reply to comment by triestdain in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
army of strawmen vs one match
RedLeafRoy t1_jbh9q0n wrote
Reply to comment by BatmansShame in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
So you keep insisting. It's not true.
But you can keep saying it on Reddit if it makes you feel better.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbh9c3i wrote
Reply to comment by Consus in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
parents are allowed to know what beliefs are being taught to their children. And, as I demonstrated, teaching beliefs in public schools is illegal.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbh94g0 wrote
Reply to comment by BatmansShame in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
lulz
RedLeafRoy t1_jbh90yt wrote
Reply to comment by averageduder in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
yeah profound is the worst kind of ad hominem.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbh8xze wrote
Reply to comment by livefreethendie in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
child's parents might belong to a different religion and want to know
RedLeafRoy t1_jbh05wi wrote
Reply to comment by BatmansShame in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
nope. straw man
RedLeafRoy t1_jbgx1is wrote
Reply to comment by Consus in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
> How can a word be a ceremony or rite?
Since you asked that, I believed you didn't know how a word could be a ceremony or a rite. If you were raised in a very religious household you should know this.
"Just because words are used in rituals does not make them rituals or somehow owned by religion."
That was not your question. So that was not what I was answering. You asked how a word could be a ritual at all.
"Candles, flowers, clothing, furniture, food. All these things are used in rituals. Does that make them inherently religious?"
No, and that was never my argument. My argument for hours now has always been the same- The new way that pronouns are used is part of a belief system and religion.
If you use flowers in a religious way, it's religious. If you use food in a ritual, it's a ritual.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbgthii wrote
Reply to comment by Consus in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
words are used in ritual every day. Literally. No exaggeration. -from the liturgy in houses of worship to the every day life of faith. Do you have little or no exposure to religion? Have you heard someone say amen? Peace be with you? And also with you? No?
RedLeafRoy t1_jbgqd1r wrote
Reply to comment by Consus in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
pronouns can be used as a religious ritual and this case is. I've spoken with a lot of NH clergy who agree
RedLeafRoy t1_jbgldvl wrote
Reply to comment by Paper_Disastrous in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
Brittanica's is a very mainstream definition. Words have meaning. If it checks all the boxes then it can be properly called a religion.
No. Everything could not be called a religion.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbgl4sr wrote
Reply to comment by shortieXV in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
It's psychotic now? LOL
the pronoun thing is a ritual. The related belief system checks all the boxes of a humanistic religion.
My argument isn't semantics. Words have meanings. If people here say itsnotitsnotitsnot then I get to demonstrate how it fits the definition.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbgkf1y wrote
Reply to comment by PM_Georgia_Okeefe in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
I'm mainstream in real life NH. If you think I'm odd then maybe you should get off reddit, leave the house, and talk to someone.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbgk8dc wrote
Reply to comment by BatmansShame in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
I did make a good argument. In comparison itsdumbitsdumbitsdumb seems weak.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbgk1as wrote
Reply to comment by TheodoeBhabrot in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
It's relevant because parents may want to know if their child is taking part in the rituals of a different religion.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbgjpxw wrote
Reply to comment by shortieXV in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
You claim it's the worst take, but your analysis is really shallow. It's 2 straw men.
Another person asked my definition of religion. I provided one, and then demonstrated how this belief system checks all the boxes. I don't want to continually have the same conversation here, so please read that if it interests you.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbg7tui wrote
Reply to comment by TheodoeBhabrot in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
I'm not for forcing religion on people.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbg7dgn wrote
Reply to comment by Paper_Disastrous in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
Pronouns are for them a ritual. It's related to right belief, moral conduct, and community participation. The associated belief system checks all the boxes for Britannica's definition of a religion. -particularly a humanistic religion.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbg6v1e wrote
Reply to comment by CheliceraeJones in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
every day is Womans' Day
RedLeafRoy t1_jbg3ijl wrote
Reply to comment by CheliceraeJones in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
I'm not upset. Some of it is an interesting exchange.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbg2uhr wrote
Reply to comment by PM_Georgia_Okeefe in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
This thread, for example, is dripping with religious zeal
RedLeafRoy t1_jbg2mr0 wrote
Reply to comment by TheodoeBhabrot in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
well then you would have to explain what you think contradicts each other
RedLeafRoy t1_jbg14cz wrote
Reply to comment by Paper_Disastrous in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
"religion, human beings’ relation to that which they regard as holy, sacred, absolute, spiritual, divine, or worthy of especial reverence. It is also commonly regarded as consisting of the way people deal with ultimate concerns about their lives and their fate after death. In many traditions, this relation and these concerns are expressed in terms of one’s relationship with or attitude toward gods or spirits; in more humanistic or naturalistic forms of religion, they are expressed in terms of one’s relationship with or attitudes toward the broader human community or the natural world. In many religions, texts are deemed to have scriptural status, and people are esteemed to be invested with spiritual or moral authority. Believers and worshippers participate in and are often enjoined to perform devotional or contemplative practices such as prayer, meditation, or particular rituals. Worship, moral conduct, right belief, and participation in religious institutions are among the constituent elements of the religious life." https://www.britannica.com/topic/religion
RedLeafRoy t1_jbg0ggs wrote
Reply to comment by barnabasthedog in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
Simply put - In my view the pronoun thing is part of a religious world view that is quite new, and adherents of classical religions tend to disagree. I mean to say it doesn't even fit into their world view.
RedLeafRoy t1_jbnrwz0 wrote
Reply to comment by triestdain in In testimony and rally, crowds oppose Republican-backed bills targeting LGBTQ youth by kitchinsink
you self-refuted in the 1st sentence