Scumandvillany

Scumandvillany t1_jcblu7c wrote

I've already read that. Just because some psychopaths have some niche "treatment" does not mean we cannot develop an open and transparent approach to involuntary commitment. I'm not saying bring on nurse ratchet, but some sort of mental illness/addiction treatment approach combined with therapy and housing is obviously the way forward.

Simply put, we cannot allow people to live like they are living on the streets of Kensington. How we should go about rectifying that is up for some discussion.

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Scumandvillany t1_jcad2wd wrote

The cognition deficit needed to drool out "but muh safe injection sites tho" in response to the need to make an entire neighborhood of tens of thousands of people and children safe and clean is staggering. "It's inhumane to mandate treatment/shelter"--nah bro. What's inhumane is to allow children of working class people to have to deal with this trauma daily and being told the solution is to have a warehouse where half of street addicts can shoot up safely but most will still shoot up on the street, and even if all of them DID use SIS, you're still gonna have to deal with the trash, feces, tents, bent over kenzo yoga, your parks and rec centers will still be open air shelters and that's too bad because addicts deserve to be respected.

The sheer absurdity of this line of thinking is astounding.

Most normal, common sense people who work for a living see through this bullshit for what it is. Ivory tower logic applied to real world conditions.

MANDATORY TREATMENT AND SHELTER FOR PERSONS SUFFERING FROM ADDICTION

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Scumandvillany t1_jamt8uk wrote

That's a big house, and not much insulation. My 1800 sq ft row with zero insulation costs 50$ without the boiler running. During deep winter coldest months it can go as high as 400.

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Scumandvillany t1_jam9k2w wrote

You have movement tracked, you find where they went. To further the investigation, you subpoena cell tower records using the evidence from the cameras to back the request. You could also use geofence warrants and narrow down the suspect list. There are ways.

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Scumandvillany t1_jai613a wrote

The distinction is it is harder to prove, and the DA is requiring more evidence to go to trial on, a case that involves "constructive possession". A gun must be found on a person, or else possession is "constructive", and that has kinda been my issue with Krasner regarding these charges. It def seems he is less willing to try to prosecute a constructive possession case vs otherwise, and I think that's where the problem is.

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Scumandvillany t1_jahok1d wrote

Is krasners office botched cases? Yes. Have the police even arrested or brought cases to the DA for more than 20% of carjackings? No.

Again, two things can be true. Krasner is not that good at his job, his ideas are half baked, and he's failed to retain lawyers and improve on consistency and victims rights, all of that. But that's one half of the problem, and I argue that the bigger problem is the police's sheer ineptitude and inability to solve the vast majority of violent crimes.

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Scumandvillany t1_jahnq2b wrote

I mean, this is another common refrain from the blue lives matter crowd. Sure OK, fine so convictions for illegal gun possession are down and arrests are up. are all those arrests legitimate ?was there enough evidence to support those arrests? We don't exactly know do we? And even given if every one of those arrests should have been a conviction-fine, Krasner's office is incompetent. This is not in question by me-what is in question is the police's incompetency with regard to solving violent crime, including murders and shootings most importantly. So maybe instead of deflecting with data on gun arrests, focus on why and how the police should be solving more violent crimes.

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Scumandvillany t1_jahirie wrote

My copypasta because people are DMing me "what is mandatory 4K"

It stems from the idea that objectivity in law enforcement is important these days. With the police being proven to be problematic in enforcement, from stop and frisk, to vehicle stops, the point is to move to an objective way to get where we want, which is safer streets, better traffic enforcement, and actually catching murderers and violent people.

The city should put up a network of a few thousand cameras. Minimum. The police already have 500 or so, and those should all be upgraded to MANDATORY 4K, while also adding to the network. This would enable real time tracking of suspects and much better intelligence for the cops to solve murders. Think about it, a few thousand shooters are simply walking about, free to roam. Murderers some, hyper violent all. Give the tools to prosecute more effectively, and redirect police to crime solving and simple patrol and responding to 911 calls by expanding the detective unit.

Civil liberties can be preserved by having a MANDATORY obligation to delete any footage not involved in a crime after a set period, like three weeks or so. Have a civil commission in charge of the release and use of the footage, with regular citizens on the board. Only be able to use the footage in specific crimes-violent ones.

At 10 thou a camera(and that's a lot), 20 million dollars rolls out two thousand cameras, all super high def for zooming etc. add in 5 million a year for enterprise cloud storage(leveraged by the bully pulpit and the city's franchise powers), and viola. we spent 150 million in the last budget for violence prevention, which indeterminate results.

Once you start actually locking murderers and shooters up em masse, the violent crimes will go down. It's not a huge swath of people who commit such crimes, it's a few thousands out of 1.6 million. Eventually you lock all the degenerates up and others will get the idea to not fuck around.

I'm not saying this idea is Christ come again, but it's a very simple idea and largely irrefutable. The fact is we are entering a new era of policing and we must find new ways to solve violent crime and enforce the law.

At the same time we can do violence prevention, jobs programs and jail reforms to help ex cons gain a true foothold after they leave a long sentence, while also reducing the amount of people going in for petty drug crimes etc. of course we need to look at the economic reasons as well, and focus on bettering our educational systems and creating opportunities for people to succeed at the same time as MANDATORY 4K. We also need to address blight, clean and green spaces, clean all streets of trash and debris, be very quick about illegal dumping, and help low income people repair their houses and get their titles sorted out. But MANDATORY 4K is about now.

It's just something I've been floating around here for awhile now. I refine it from time to time. And I agree with you about the systemic issues, and think those things I mentioned above are part of the solution generationally, but I disagree that solving 90% of violent crimes won't drastically reduce the incidence of it. I think people are a bit smarter than we give them credit for, and when people who may be prone to this stuff, on the borderline, they might start thinking twice if the certainty of them getting caught and doing 20 years is might higher. They might choose a different path. And in any case I think there's not an endless well of shooters and hyper violent people on street beef shit. Eventually it will wane.

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Scumandvillany t1_jahimdy wrote

When you follow that up with a blue underwear guy, and ask what % of shootings do police ask for charges/arrests in, you're met with but "muh respect and krasner sucks". It's delusional. Two things can be true: the police are incompetent and lazy, while krasner and his office make big mistakes and their policies are misguided.

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Scumandvillany t1_jahfyn9 wrote

Is it verboten to talk about why the police can't solve more than 17% of shootings and 38% of murders? I know the (punisher/blue lives matter/suck a cops dick/krasner is the problem) crowd literally thinks that police solve shootings but krasner won't charge them, and while that may be true in some niche cases(probably because lack of evidence), the root cause here is the police themselves are incompetent. Why won't the most ostensibly progressive candidates even talk about that?

To me it's a HUGE part of the puzzle, and actually catching shooters will reduce violence, because once you've shot people, you're highly likely to do it again.

Hence the need for MANDATORY 4K

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Scumandvillany t1_jaduqlm wrote

I think its probably a higher incidence in NYC because they have so much automated enforcement for traffic. So people are looking to get away with it. Especially cops. There's lots of twitter accounts dedicated to exposing this. In general, with more automated enforcement, there will be a need to enforce rules on parked vehicles spotted with obscured tags.

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Scumandvillany t1_j9z7om0 wrote

Honestly just get another beater. Like a used Subaru, or Honda or Toyota. But honestly I'd just ride that Camry till the wheels come off. That things engine will run as long as there's oil in it for a hundred thousand miles more than your outside estimate

Edit: also, why on earth do people live in south Philly and drive to CC? Just seems odd. Buses are easy and cleanish.

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