Shiningc

Shiningc t1_j4g0ha6 wrote

There's one way to falsify the multiverse: Make an AGI/consciousness running on a quantum computer, and make it experience "quantum consciousness" in the multiverse.

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Shiningc t1_j3c6ssv wrote

Yes this is nothing new, we don't have AGI and we're still nowhere near close to having an AGI.

An AI at its current state is like a glorified mechanical turk. A bunch of "dumb" people doing menial, mechanical tasks could do the same thing the "AI" is doing. I mean that has to be the case, since AI is run by a bunch of specific-purpose GPUs and not general-purpose CPUs.

So the AI might be able to do things that would take millions of unthinking, automated people doing thousands of hours of mechanical, menial labor. But all it takes is a single creative genius that has the ability to actually invent something new which will revolutionize something. Only an AGI is capable of doing that, and not an "AI".

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Shiningc t1_j2c3pl8 wrote

Reply to comment by mrobot_ in Can you spot the AI art? by gelimaurk

It just trains the program to look for similarities, and then make the program mash the images together.

For example, you show the program an image of an Apple and label it “Apple”. The program doesn’t “know” that it’s an apple, it just looks for patterns that looks like that image. If you make the program go through thousands of images, then it might have thousands of ways of drawing an apple.

In the same way, you might make the program “learn” a “bear eating”. So if you input “a bear eating an apple”, then you might output an image where it might look like a bear is about to eat an apple.

Obviously, humans are much more flexible than that. All it has to do is learn what an apple and a bear is, and it can draw an infinite pattern of art with those two items. Or it can be a completely new style of art. Fact is, we don’t “learn” how to draw stick figures for example, yet we do. We don’t just imitate reality like the AI does.

We THINK that we’re drawing people when we’re drawing stick figures. They’re our imperfect yet approximate figures of humans. We’re not copying, we’re estimating. That’s what it means by drawing from scratch.

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Shiningc t1_j1soczr wrote

There's still going to be an inherent limitation set in statistics and probabilities. As in, things don't always follow a "trend" or a "pattern". A trend could suddenly change in unexpected and surprising ways.

It could be that things like predicting the trajectory of a ball falling are based on statistics and probabilities, when we use our "intuition". But we can also think about it that would completely change how we would predict the trajectory. For example, we could learn that the wind could affect the trajectory of the ball. Or as in the case of baseball, the pitcher could be using the "slider" throw to make the ball fall a lot faster than when normally thrown. And a person would never even have to ever see the ball being affected by the wind before to predict this. There were never any statistical samples. He can simply think about how the wind would affect the ball. So he predicted the trajectory not based on statistics, but by some kind of a new rule, perhaps one that closely resembles the laws of physics.

Our general thinking isn't necessarily based on statistics and probabilities. And that's why an AGI can't be developed from statistical and probabilistic methods alone.

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Shiningc t1_j1p63af wrote

I don't see how we can't live forever once we figure out how to repair individual cells.

However all of our cells are replaced every 10 years or so. But how could it be possible that we still apparently have the same consciousness?

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Shiningc t1_j1nzac1 wrote

Because that's what you read on the Internet? Probabilities rely on human-made labels, and can only make a choice between A or B. That's not how human intelligence works because it can come up with an entirely new label, like say a new choice C that's not based on probabilities.

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