Smellz_Of_Elderberry
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j61shbu wrote
Reply to comment by GoldenHolden01 in AGI that preserves the status quo is an oxymoron by paulalesius
Cats are the higher beings.. now scratch ferlings tummy.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j60x69v wrote
Reply to comment by berdiekin in Humanity May Reach Singularity Within Just 7 Years, Trend Shows by Shelfrock77
I'm not saying things will end up this way. I just think it's useful to prepare for many different possibilities.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j5zpuie wrote
Reply to comment by berdiekin in Humanity May Reach Singularity Within Just 7 Years, Trend Shows by Shelfrock77
The government is run largely by donors and lobbyists..
Also genocide isn't relegated to cartoon villains.. history is rife with examples. And again, psychopaths exist, ceos have a high likelihood of having such characteristics.
What I'm talking about is very much a possibility. You seem to only counter the argument with " that's just not believable." which isn't a compelling counter..
People find it unsettling to believe that some people REALLY do just want to watch the world burn. Generally these are highly empathetic individuals. They can't conceive how such a non empathetic person feels..
Read some of the famous books on overpopulation, and really try to understand the beliefs of some of these individuals. Thomas Robert Malthus
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j5wltfb wrote
Reply to comment by pyriphlegeton in Humanity May Reach Singularity Within Just 7 Years, Trend Shows by Shelfrock77
What is?
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j5wlo8f wrote
Reply to comment by CandyCoatedHrtShapes in Humanity May Reach Singularity Within Just 7 Years, Trend Shows by Shelfrock77
They won't use it to starve people.. I never understood the overly complex methods people come up with..
If they want to kill everyone, all they would have to do is unleash 5 or six different variants engineered small pox into a handful of cities, with a 2 week incubation period.
The overwhelming majority would be infected in under a month.
I think a group deciding "hey I want all the land that is currently taken up by the masses" is a very real possibility. Its not like psychopathy isnt a very real condition. It's also been proven that CEOs are much more likely to have psychopathic characteristics.
I prefer to think things will turn out, but something horrible like the above happening is very much a possibility. Hopefully things turn out.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j5uceeb wrote
Reply to comment by thephilth in it seems like the tipping point is coming soon... by captain_gumpy
I think this take is correct. Showed my father how easy it is to deep fake and create fake video, he said "I will never trust anything I see online again". Lots of folks are already leaving social media and online connectedness behind, I kinda think it's a good thing...
People shouldn't trust what they see online. That's been the case for a long while... This is hopefully going to start solidifying our real world relationships again, something which has kinda been ruined due to social media.
I imagine that going forward tech will continue to advance rapidly.. But that we will see people push away from certain aspects of it, like being always online, always connected, and having a ton of social media sites.. Instead I think people are going to realize that everything online is easily fakable and live more here. With less of a focus on trying to appear the most popular on their social feed.. To me, it's the rebirth of people being genuine.
I'll probably pull back as well. Not in a luddite kind of way, but simply remove tech from the things I don't really need it for. I enjoy cooking on an open flame for example, I don't need a fancy electric oven. But I'll still watch movies at the end of the day. Likely movies which are dreamed up by our DVD player.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j5s9c3y wrote
Reply to comment by Wolfzzz222 in Future-Proof Jobs by [deleted]
Hence, the paradox.
The only thing I've thought of is something like universal basic income.. Eventually leading into a post scarcity society, where goods are so abundant that 99% of goods don't require money to purchase.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j5rgxlk wrote
Reply to Future-Proof Jobs by [deleted]
Future proof jobs. Gold standard for this is the creation of art.. Specifically for people who are interested in buying art for the human connection it entails.. ai will create better art, but people want art made by people. After that it's physical labor jobs. The physical aspects of the trades are going to take time to overcome. It takes much longer to make a physical robot and manufacture it en mass, than it does to upload an ai model to automate data based jobs.
Tldr, jobs which people want human service specifically, and physical complex labor jobs.
All will be automata except the first, eventually.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j5hslyo wrote
Reply to comment by crua9 in The Next Generation of Humans: Nanobots by crua9
God, I hope an effective competitor without all the censorious and annoying garbage comes out to compete with chatgpt.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j5hro22 wrote
Reply to comment by pelathos in When you imagine the future of technology, is it grim or is it hopeful? by ForesightInstitute
I need to learn a LOT more before I either support or condemn what you're saying. I'll give it some thought going and give the two people you recommended a listen. :)
I certainly look forward to an end to hustle culture, I hate my job and would very much prefer if I didn't have to do it any longer. Carpentry apparently used to be a fun profession, now it's just rush rush rush, so you can maybe end up with a smidgen of profit at the end of a project. No focus on creating a truly unique and quality piece of work.. just something good enough, so you can make some profit in the margins.
Everything is like this now, efficiency is everything, and it's soul killing.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j5dqici wrote
Reply to comment by pelathos in When you imagine the future of technology, is it grim or is it hopeful? by ForesightInstitute
It's why some people say "culture is everything". A technological revolution without a cultural/thought based revolution, will simply lead to all of the problems we have today growing exponentially. Think privacy concerns worsening by leaps and bounds.. (we know what you are thinking and remove the "threat to our cultural norms" before it becomes a threat). Think about how having a fundamentally greater understanding of how the mind works will lead to innovation in the control of people's thoughts.. The possible way things can "and probably will" go wrong is staggering when you really stop and think. I think many will come to be.. Even groups which supposedly are designed to combat such a future are simply bringing it into existence.. Look at open ai, it was supposed to be an open source group that worked with the community to come up with solutions to the problems ai would create. Now? It's a walled garden, with billions coming in from mega corps, with ever increasing ideological censorship baked into its products.. I personally think things will get unimaginably bad, and then unimaginably good.. But it could just as easily go unimaginably bad and stay that way.
Idk if I agree with removing money.. as you won't be removing barter or all forms of power.. power exists regardless of money. Do you have a higher iq? A more attractive face? Are you able to imagine stories in your minds eye with clarity? Then you have some form of capital that makes you more wealthy than those who don't. Would we make kindness something that can only be doled out in equal measure? If one parent loves their child more than another, is it good to remove the loving parent simply because you're unable to find a parent to love the other equally as much? Hyperbole, but you get my point. Money is as bad as the person spending it, and the people accepting it. Outside of creating simulated worlds, it's impossible to give everyone true equality.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j4yl8d2 wrote
Reply to comment by Yomiel94 in AI doomers everywhere on youtube by Ashamed-Asparagus-93
Or the devil.
Ai is a force multiplier. It can improve and degrade things in equal measure.
I'm more positive, but it certainly can create hell, as well as it create heaven.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j4sotm9 wrote
Reply to comment by blueSGL in Is it wishful thinking that I feel like we’re way closer than we thought? by fignewtgingrich
I don't like china, just fyi.
>The rules and guides for a lot of safety measures are written in blood, ways to make sure that dire mistakes can never happen again.
Admittedly. But when you get an experimental vaccine In less than a year, but at the same time, have to wait 10+ years to access new cancer therapies (even though cancer will kill you) it upsets me, primarily due to the inability for normal people to make their own decisions and take their own risks.
>I do also feel that rules and guidelines need to be updated to reflect reality.
Often, what happens instead is that the rules and guidelines are set up to dictate reality. Immunotherapy is a fine example, it's original founders were colored as quacks, and now it has become one of the most groundbreaking developments in cancer treatment.
Also, laws are very very rarely repealed or removed.. There are still laws that say you can't have a pie cooling on your windowsil in order to prevent attracting bears... Even though the bears in said location were eradicated lifetimes ago.. Adding sunset clauses to laws would be a great first step. Make it so all laws need to be renewed after a set amount of time
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j4sh6om wrote
Reply to comment by blueSGL in Is it wishful thinking that I feel like we’re way closer than we thought? by fignewtgingrich
And it will be china and countries like it that cure xyz diseases.. Because their regulations aren't quite so... Dumb..
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Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j4era30 wrote
Reply to comment by farticustheelder in Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
Ai already beat go..
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j4eqo9o wrote
Reply to comment by SurroundSwimming3494 in Does anyone else get the feeling that, once true AGI is achieved, most people will act like it was the unsurprising and inevitable outcome that they expected? by oddlyspecificnumber7
Chatgpt is more capable than most humans in countless things.. Now, it still makes logical errors, but, uh, have you spoken to many humans? They make logical errors constantly, and most aren't capable of writing at a fraction the level of chatgpt..
Now is it sentient? No... But it's definitely human level on a great many things..
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j478ijy wrote
Reply to comment by I_am_unique6435 in Things like ChatGPT being used in some future games for dynamic and realistic NPC engagement by crua9
What makes religion popular is the fear of death, and wonder of the unknown.
Along with habit (for most folks they just do it because their parents did it). But what gets them started, is what I mentioned above.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j478438 wrote
Reply to Things like ChatGPT being used in some future games for dynamic and realistic NPC engagement by crua9
I've been predicting this for a while.
The issue is coming up with ways to impact the AI's stats based on your interaction. How do you determine whether xyz text makes an ai more or less fond of you? THIS is why lots of people think we are still missing a very key feature in turning these ai into truly sentient beings. They need an internal value structure, and we need to find out how to establish what impacts that structure and how it impacts it.
It's so complicated, that I find it difficult to really word my thoughts on the subject.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j441f0g wrote
Reply to full body tracking with WiFi signals by utilizing deep learning architectures by Shelfrock77
I had a friend tell me about this several years ago, I thought he was bullshitting. This means that whoever can literally get a visual image of your home at all times.. that's terrifying.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j3kcqi9 wrote
Reply to comment by stockist420 in New Study Uncovers Potential Target for Stopping 90% of Cancer Deaths by Shelfrock77
Heck I think we should be way more aggressive with cancer than the pandemic. Cancer vs the pandemic almost have opposite death rates, but we have to wait 12 years for a new cancer treatment.. vs 1.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j26r7ue wrote
Reply to comment by Ok_Homework9290 in Hypothetically, if most jobs were to become obsolete from the AI revolution overnight, what would be your contingency plan? by [deleted]
I literally just got back from working on a farm warehouse which is being renovated into a robotics factory.. they plan to produce robot waiters, robot janitors, and robot construction worker aids..
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j26r1im wrote
Reply to comment by Imnot_your_buddy_guy in Hypothetically, if most jobs were to become obsolete from the AI revolution overnight, what would be your contingency plan? by [deleted]
Plant food fluid? You would need to acquire that via the grid. It's far more self sustaining to plant in soil, in a nature mimicking garden. If you set it up properly it can be self fertilizing, with animals and insects revitalizing the soil.
Also, post singularity u can expect mini fusion reactors.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j26q8g0 wrote
Reply to Hypothetically, if most jobs were to become obsolete from the AI revolution overnight, what would be your contingency plan? by [deleted]
I would get a job in the only place where jobs would still exist. The virtual world.
We will create artificial scarcity in these game worlds, and people will have to "work" to achieve status inside of them. Ai workers will be banned inside.
Smellz_Of_Elderberry t1_j65z1p7 wrote
Reply to If given the chance in your life time, will join a theoretical transhumanist hive mind? by YobaiYamete
No. I have zero interest in losing individuality.