I personally believe any responsive system is conscious to a degree, reflected by their ability to sense, compute and respond. The more complex and rich that space is, the more conscious the system is.

For example a light switch is conscious of its state, on and off, while the tokyo subway station is not as conscious as a cell, as it has fewer inputs, fewer actions and fewer responses, but a lot more conscious than the light switch.

So being able perceive and respond intelligently to internal and external changes?

The first commercial spiral-welded 89-meter wind turbine tower has begun operation, built by GE Renewable Energy and wind turbine producer Keystone Tower Systems.

Spiral welding is when the steel used to make the tower is curled into a cylinder; essentially, these towers are built from meters-wide steel plates. The technique requires only one machine to construct a tower section, and it can produce towers up to twice as tall and 10 times faster than conventional towers.

The manufacturing process uses coil steel – flat-rolled steel that’s been coiled up into a roll or coil shape and allows tapered towers with variable wall thickness to be manufactured from constant width sheets of steel.

The manufacturing equipment completes the joining, rolling, fit-up, welding, and severing of a tower section – and that results in the continuous production of steel tower shells:

Keystone says it can make the lightest, lowest-cost, and most structurally optimized towers in the wind turbine industry.

Keystone is also developing mobile factories capable of building taller towers directly at wind sites.

Production is now being ramped up of spiral-welded towers, with additional deliveries targeted for the first quarter of 2023. They’ll make more towers for the GE 2.8-127 turbine, and they can be used interchangeably with GE’s conventional 89-meter-tall tower. The spiral tower has received a component certification from TÜV NORD for a 40-year lifetime.

See a video about the process here.

https://youtu.be/ufu8f1PWYzE

Building towers 10x faster, cheaper and onsite should mean a much-increased onshore wind turbine installation capacity, speeding the transition to renewable energy.

Sure, NP, and you are partially right also lol. It may cost closer to $80,000 to have your own ChatGPT instance.

https://twitter.com/tomgoldsteincs/status/1600196988703690752

But then that sounds like a business opportunity lol.

That's not what I said lol. I said its manageable on hardware a consumer can buy.

> I know that the computing power necessary for the most successful models far outstrip what your average consumer is capable of generating.

The training is resource intensive. The running is not, which is demonstrated by ChatGPT being able to support millions of users concurrently.

Even if you need a $3000 GPU to run it, that's a trivial cost for the help it can provide.

In the context of an AI, what is consciousness?

I think emotion is just a bias that influences decision making. An AI will presumably be able to make decisions more precisely than that, though in our messy world having such shortcuts may actually be better and more efficient than keeping a full list of someone's previous history in your "context window".

> a toilet can respond to external stimulus, remove water when you press the lever and add water until it senses it is full, I am pretty confident it is not conscious.

It i conscious of whether you pressed the lever or not.

You seem to be missing the point which is that there is a spectrum of consciousness, and the richer it is, the more conscious the being is.

This is exactly the mambo jambo I was talking about that people invent to separate themselves machines and animals.

The simple fact is that at its most basic, consciousness means being able to perceive and respond to external stimuli.

It's merely because of all the nonsense you add that you can claim supremacy over a simple car.

Who said anything about sentient? Do you think animals are conscious? If so, there is a point when computers are also conscious.

And what makes you think AI can't be self referential?

When a Tesla plans and executes on a route, are they not referring to their own present, past and future state?

Who?

That is actually not the definition.

conscious

noun 1. the state of being aware of and responsive to one's surroundings. "she failed to regain consciousness and died two days later"

a person's awareness or perception of something. "her acute consciousness of Luke's presence"

Now you can add all kinds of mumbo jumbo magic but that's not the definition.

I would argue a Tesla in FSD mode is conscious, as it has an awareness of itself, it's surroundings and responds to it mostly appropriately.

We don't have conscious machines simply because we are not trying to make one, not because it requires some divine spark

> Why would you have an android at home that's 1 billion times smarter than you, rather than you augmenting your intelligence by 1 billion times?

Wont you have the same problem of a transhuman a billion times smarter than the other humans taking over the world? What is the difference really?

I would vote for you lol.

Or 6 feet undergrounded.

He's right though, as some-one else said recently - there is only 1 safe solution and millions of ways to F it up.

The main consolation is that we are going to die in any case, AI or no AI, so an aligned ASI actually gives us a chance to escape that.

So my suggestion is to tell him he cant get any more dead than he will be in 70 years in any case, so he might as well bet on immortality.

All the sermons will end with

> In conclusion,

Yes, but that is also reasonable, since chatGPT is so accomplished.

But it does have to tick all the boxes, and chatGPT cant learn anything new for example, and its reasoning capabilities are pretty good, but still flawed, with basic logic errors some times.

> So, if it is complexity that determines if it is an AI, what is the threshold for it being complex enough?

A reasonable question. I am sure you have purchased some home appliances with the AI label that simply chooses the right wash program based on some sensors, and the developers call that AI, so it's just a label really.

The question is not whether ChatGPT is AI, it's where it is an AGI, and for that, it will need to fulfil a variety of criteria, those being able to reason, problem-solve, learn and plan at the same level as a human in a broad range of areas.

Clearly ChatGPT can not do that yet, so it's not an AGI.

It can however be envisioned that these capabilities can be developed, and future LLM with the right capabilities would meet the criteria for AGI.