TeamMisha

TeamMisha t1_iw50b1t wrote

I have never seen that happen, do you have news stories about such an occurrence? Usually DOT will maybe shrink a lane by 1 foot at most, with the minimum at 10 foot lanes which is still plenty wide given a car is around 6.5 feet wide and standard unit trucks (SU-30) being around 8.5 feet. 1 extra foot would do nothing so I'm not sure the issue you describe has been realized but if you have some pictures that'd be great

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TeamMisha t1_ivwoxle wrote

Why not? More park the better I figure. The traffic circle is surrounded by park land already, I don't see why not fill the road in and expand the park. But yes, the inner circle area however would be perfect to move the farmers market they do now for example, i.e. surround the arch with stands and use the space for cultural/dining/etc. programming, makes sense to me yeah

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TeamMisha t1_ivwi5m2 wrote

You're joking right? I'm gonna assume you're being satirical.... I hope. Adding more lanes to the LIE would not help, that's already been proven by traffic engineers for decades.

> I don’t really care what has to go.

I think the people that live there do, you realize destroying homes nowadays for highways, here in NYC at least, is an absolute non-starter right? You'd be up your ass in lawsuits before you even hit the planning phase, let alone begun the probably 5-10 year environmental review.

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TeamMisha t1_ivwh1ou wrote

I think 2 lanes max on the circular road would be sufficient and close the entire middle portion. It wouldn't even require construction as they can simply convert the parking lane on Plaza Street into a travel lane. Done and dusted. The entire interior is a waste of space IMO, convert it into greenspace I figure

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TeamMisha t1_ivwfyan wrote

It needs a lot of work, this place is a fucking mess for peds and bikes. I see so many confused cyclists navigating from the north where you have back to back 3-5 leg intersections on the south half of the circle. We have this beautiful arch choked off from the world cause it's surrounded by roads wider than highways. It reminds me of the Arc de Triumph in paris that it's like this fucking insane 10 lane wide traffic circle so crazy that they indeed just built tunnels cause how in the fuck would you ever cross it safely. Don't want to see that happen here. This whole area is over-engineered to hell, bring it down to human scale

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TeamMisha t1_ivwfgs9 wrote

I think it can and should be done. Eastern Parkway is a mistake to begin with, not human sized at all, and connects here to this crazy over-engineered traffic circle monstrosity. The grid here should be brought back to the scale of surrounding streets, like Vanderbilt is just 1 lane in either direction. There's a section of the plaza that is SEVEN lanes wide yet is fed by at most a 2-lane road from the north from Flatbush, wtf were they doing designing this? The entire inner plaza roadways could be removed tbh

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TeamMisha t1_iuytqek wrote

Unless I understand wrong, the law is already passed, the MTA does not need the future governor's approval as congestion pricing is already authorized. He would need to submit legislation that undoes the previous law, but I don't see a good reason the senate would support such a move.

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