Thelonious_Cube
Thelonious_Cube t1_jatyzpf wrote
Reply to comment by PiersPlays in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
> There's no directly experiencing the world.
You say that as if there is some possible world where we experience it "directly" and our current world falls short somehow.
That's a pretty odd view - how much more "directly" could we experience the world?
Thelonious_Cube t1_jatyedk wrote
Reply to comment by interstellarclerk in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
You might want to look into reliabilism and/or the work of GE Moore.
Descartes is not the endpoint of epistemology.
> There’s no good argument against external world skepticism.
There's also no good reason to accept it
Thelonious_Cube t1_ja6l8hm wrote
Reply to comment by Im-a-magpie in Compatibilism is supported by deep intuitions about responsibility and control. It can also feel "obviously" wrong and absurd. Slavoj Žižek's commentary can help us navigate the intuitive standoff. by matthewharlow
Perhaps so, but the point still stands
Thelonious_Cube t1_ja1lvwc wrote
Reply to comment by Im-a-magpie in Compatibilism is supported by deep intuitions about responsibility and control. It can also feel "obviously" wrong and absurd. Slavoj Žižek's commentary can help us navigate the intuitive standoff. by matthewharlow
No, that's not correct.
The ordinary concept also includes the idea that one's choices are a product of one's taste, values and experience - therefore tied to the causal history of one's life.
Thelonious_Cube t1_j9mg1io wrote
Reply to comment by Im-a-magpie in Compatibilism is supported by deep intuitions about responsibility and control. It can also feel "obviously" wrong and absurd. Slavoj Žižek's commentary can help us navigate the intuitive standoff. by matthewharlow
No, it's not - the ordinary concept is vague and contradictory
Thelonious_Cube t1_j9e2jnx wrote
Reply to comment by jamesj in Compatibilism is supported by deep intuitions about responsibility and control. It can also feel "obviously" wrong and absurd. Slavoj Žižek's commentary can help us navigate the intuitive standoff. by matthewharlow
That ignores the purpose of possible-world thinking
Thelonious_Cube t1_j9e0xid wrote
Reply to comment by jamesj in Compatibilism is supported by deep intuitions about responsibility and control. It can also feel "obviously" wrong and absurd. Slavoj Žižek's commentary can help us navigate the intuitive standoff. by matthewharlow
That "could have done otherwise" means there's a possible world in which a different choice was made, not that determinism is false.
Thelonious_Cube t1_j99e3sn wrote
Reply to comment by jamesj in Compatibilism is supported by deep intuitions about responsibility and control. It can also feel "obviously" wrong and absurd. Slavoj Žižek's commentary can help us navigate the intuitive standoff. by matthewharlow
And they also believe that their free choices should be governed by their values and preferences which are a product of their upbringing
> ordinary people generally understand free will as the ability to choose a desired course of action without restraint
And that is perfectly compatible with determinism
Thelonious_Cube t1_j99abqg wrote
Reply to comment by jamesj in Compatibilism is supported by deep intuitions about responsibility and control. It can also feel "obviously" wrong and absurd. Slavoj Žižek's commentary can help us navigate the intuitive standoff. by matthewharlow
> free will as commonly understood
Are you certain that the way free will is commonly understood is coherent?
I don't think it is
Thelonious_Cube t1_j99a329 wrote
Reply to comment by ThMogget in Compatibilism is supported by deep intuitions about responsibility and control. It can also feel "obviously" wrong and absurd. Slavoj Žižek's commentary can help us navigate the intuitive standoff. by matthewharlow
Dennett has a newer, more generally accessible book on compatibilism called Freedom Evolves - highly recommended!
Thelonious_Cube t1_jatzom8 wrote
Reply to comment by IAI_Admin in Our emotional experiences reveal facts about the world in the same way our sensory experiences do. Trusting in either requires a leap of faith to some degree. by IAI_Admin
Are they equivocating on "faith" here or do they just mean "trust" and not "religious faith"?