Because there are only a limited amount of resources? AI isn't going to magically appear more copper out of thin air. And aren't they sitting idle because we don't need them?

I never understand UBI, it seems impossible to me. Prices are driven by supply and demand, if we don't increase supply but do increase income, everything will just get more expensive. What's the point?

Yeah but heavy doesn't mean it uses much more energy, heavy is just a problem if you're changing speed a lot, which I don't think they do.

Nothing a few solar panels can't provide

That's a very naïve way to look at it. I'm a nuclear physicist and I can say with complete certainty that collecting water from the air will never, ever be enough to feed 50 billion people. I can prove it if you want. Won't even be enough to feed anyone.

Vertical farms can be towers and reach the sky, but what I am asking you is what if you run out of space? Not when. Because we will eventually have to choose by making more space for farming or humans, how will we choose on a global scale?

The birth rate drops when women get more educated and people become too busy. A high standard of living with low employment is not something we have ever experienced. In countries where workweeks are low we see large explosion of population. And which of the two it is we can only guess at. So I mean high standard of living vs low amount of spare time.

Agree with the last paragraph tho.

Aeroponics and vertical farming takes care of the space problem for now. That's the issue, what do we do when it doesn't anymore? And where do we get the water from? Because if we keep that up no other animals will ever be able to live on the planet with us.

BTW there have been lots of experiments with UBI and it works. On small groups not entire countries which omits the problem

But the materials my man, where do we get them from? How do we produce more food if we have no land to grow it on?

Why? It's just one arm and a computer?

I feel like people always forget that UBI isn't possible at all. Let me explain.

The price of things we buy is determined by the cost of materials and labour, among other things like marketing. But for food these don't really apply except for materials like fertilizer, land, seeds, water, and labour. As long as there is scarcity of materials, removing labour will not remove all costs.

Even if we distribute those materials without costs, scarcity will always be there. If we somehow move past scarcity, the population will explode and we get back to scarcity again, as earth is of limited size.

So how are we going to divide the food? Who gets to have what? UBI will certainly not decide that. Even if we try to spread it equally, how will we limit people in not overusing/wasting materials? The demand will go up while the supply doesn't change. So the price goes up until we're back to square one. It's just pointless.

Well the picture is dalle 2 and the text probably gpt3 soooo....

I know, but why do you think that would need that much storage and processing power? Humans are already smart enough to do that and we use about 25 watts of power. The future for processing centers in AI is analog and won't use much more power.

What are you talking about. AGI will probably use only slightly more energy than humans and doesn't need datacenters at all because we would use edge ai

There we go, my work here is done

That's because you're not sane

Sane people?

So just because they don't look like humans they don't count? How narcissistic of you. Robots will never look humans because it would be stupid design.

You're just hellbent on being pessimistic.

Again google it, I'm done talking to you because you won't listen anyway.

I walk 20k a day at work (warehouse job), and still have the same safety shoes I got over a year ago and thread isn't even noticably damaged. I only work 2 days a week tho.

Almost like different human artists having a style they are particularly good at...

By done I mean 10x the energy out than in. So ready to be deployed. And yes it will still take time to become commercial, but the tech has been invented, the rest is logistics.

Yes waymo has 0 human input, no driver whatsoever. Google it.

If you don't take Elon serious you're shooting yourself in the foot.

Haven't seen an android do anything useful? Nearly every car in the world is produced by robots. Tesla's are completely made by robots. How is that not useful?

To me it seems like you just want to be pessimistic.

No I meant perfect what I said. And it is predictable, if you can't see that, ask me questions I can answer so I can help you.

Maybe I should add I'm a major in Applied Physics with a minor in electrical engineering, and am now following a masters in AI and engineering systems. Hope that gives you a little credibility to what I'm saying.

Predictions can never have evidence, otherwise they wouldn't be evidence.

But it's completely logical, why would they do anything in existence but not make your food?

Let me repeat they'll be better than humans at literally everything.

What do you not understand about anything? As predictions are right now, AI will be capable of anything humans can do, in another couple years more than we can even think of.

AI has always been an endgame technology, it most likely will be the last thing humans work on.

Ofcourse I know what numpy is, use it all the time for writing code in python. Especially for arrays to model AI algorithms to.

Computers only make sense in companies, they're way to big to have at home.

Ofcourse a new technology isn't instantly perfect, it takes time. Over the next 5 to 10 years it will be able to drive anywhere.

Tech has not plateaud, unless you don't understand how tech works.

How can you be so pessimisticly blind? AI is useless to the end user? What about midjourney? Or alphafold already solving diseases?

There's self driving cars are here, wayme is deploying them as self driving Taxis as we speak, regulations just need to catch up.

Nuclear fusion is here already. Spark will be done in 2025. Generation might take a little longer because people need to be trained to build them.

Spacex has finally mastered saving the burner stages and a moonbase is planned before the end of the decade. And as a normal person for the first time you can buy a ticket to space.

Android robots are amazing, have you seen boston dynamics? Or what musk did in 8 months? All they're missing is AI, which will be ready before the end of the decade.

You gotta be kidding.

Also quantum leap? So a leap so small you can't even see it with your microscope?