Zenith2017

Zenith2017 t1_j50w9yp wrote

I assume you mean general content (including pride flags and other imagery) that reference queer and nonbinary people.

You could think of it this way: we already have implicit acceptance everywhere of straight cis students and staff, and that's not considered inappropriate. Straight and cisgender is the norm and the expectation of our society, and no additional signalling or visibility really needs to be present.

But queer and/or nonbinary people are not aligned with that societal expectation, we are suppressed by it. The late great Elite Wiesel's famous words come to mind: "We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the oppressed. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented". In this way, the so-called neutrality of the policy banning any expression of social politics oppresses queer people, because representation must be had for equality to thrive.

Additionally, consider this: do we really want children to be raised in an environment where they're never exposed to what people unlike them think? How can the answer to a fear of indoctrination be to hide them from anyone else's opinions, rather than showing them the breadth of the world and teaching them how to evaluate and make good decisions? I can guarantee you this, it's the fastest path to indoctrination to never be exposed to anything different. If parents are truly that concerned that their kid is going to get diverted into some sort of cult of thought or personality, they're welcome to home school their kids. Exposure to queer people is not harmful.

I can appreciate a desire to stop teachers and staff from inappropriately expressing their personal opinions, especially in front of the kids, and especially as employees of the government. But we already express the messaging that "straight = accepted" all over the place, all day every day. What messaging is present when we pair that with suppressing expressions that "queer = accepted" as well?

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Zenith2017 t1_j4v4saz wrote

They brought up a ton of stuff I never said or implied that they're just assuming about me because I disagreed lol. Like "why is it invalid to try to convince others to work with me", the worshipping the constitution bit, implying that I even want people to do this canvassing in parks thing.

I didn't bother to do more than skim because it became obvious they didn't listen to what I said

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Zenith2017 t1_j4sc2er wrote

Well then vote for an amendment to the 1A. I don't know what else to tell you dude. What they're doing is legal today, and you haven't made any points to prove otherwise

And honestly it's telling that you're mad at me instead of doing something that would actually change anything. Rant at me all you want, I do not control the first amendment

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Zenith2017 t1_j4s0pi7 wrote

I'm not speaking in support of their use of the park. I'm saying that it's protected by the first amendment, so far as I know. The government can't stop you from displaying most political speech, even if the speech sucks.

And I gotta say, this dystopian "human captcha checkpoint" thing seems pretty unlikely. I think a dystopia would probably start with the government censoring political speech, don't you?

Edit added "captcha"

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Zenith2017 t1_j4r5t0k wrote

Okay, fuck FIRE all the way, but in this instance I don't see that they're wrong. Political recruitment in a public space seems like a fine expression of speech. I don't want them to do it, but the constitution doesn't care about my opinions, y'know?

Edit - and if they're doing it by completely co-opting the space, harassing people, etc then that should be centered as the issue. Same as fire and brimstone preachers on public university campuses imo. They have a right to the speech and we have a right to tell them they're all jagoffs

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