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ZrvaDetector t1_jec5jjh wrote
Reply to comment by jmcgit in Turkey ratifies Finland’s NATO membership by For_All_Humanity
No, I know about this. It's just that the other guy was so pissed that this process took time, I was sarcastially asking him why. It had no negative effects.
ZrvaDetector t1_jec397s wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Turkey ratifies Finland’s NATO membership by For_All_Humanity
So what did they get invaded by something?
ZrvaDetector t1_j2fqryg wrote
Reply to comment by Bagaturgg in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
Nope, NATO has nothing to do with Grey Wolves of today, the thing is shortly after the Cold War they stopped being a militant organisation. Grey Wolves without NATO backing is just another far right political organisation without any hardpower behind it.
ZrvaDetector t1_j2eng2r wrote
Reply to comment by GoFrostYourSelflel in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
By all means do it, you won't find Turkish soldiers and actual Grey Wolf members doing this. If you're talking about Azerbaijani soldiers, then I don't think they are even members of the organisation and are an isolated case. Please link the videos of "countless" civillians being beheaded by the Grey Wolves.
ZrvaDetector t1_j2ednxc wrote
Reply to comment by amckaazli in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
Existance of JITEM ended a few years after the Cold War. This stuff happened in the 90's.
ZrvaDetector t1_j2ed9t4 wrote
Reply to comment by lmsoa971 in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
>Grey wolves group has beheaded Kurds, Syrians and Armenians, you can find the pictures of them holding the grey wolves sign with the heads.
At most you would see a nationalist soldier holding the head of a dead combatant while doing the sign. Still deplorable and a war crime because its mutilation however you make it sound like they actually killed innocent Kurds and Armenians with beheadings which is not the case.
>The grey wolf Organization denies the existence, or better yet justifies the genocides against the Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians.
Yet they don't actually a commit any genocides against them nor will they ever have such power. Again, they are assholes of the worst kind but if you compare them to nazis, you're basically whitewashing what nazis did.
>Currently there is a blockade endangering the lives of 120,000 people and you can see the Turks blockading the only road throwing grey wolf signs, the International Genocide institution has deemed this as a potential genocide.
No, it's not a genocide in any case. They are free to leave Karabakh if they want. They only started this blockade after civillian researchers were denied entry by Russian soldiers.
>The expansionist ideology is currently being enacted in Syria with Turkey invading them.
Turkish "invasion" is not permanent and is preferrable to YPG holding the land along the Turkish border. A buffer zone is a natural reaction to Syrian Civil War and its impacts on Turkey. Nothing to do with Grey Wolves.
>Your idea of “they still haven’t done anything to Europe” doesn’t change the fact that if not the organization, at least it’s predecessors have enacted Turkish fascism, and the leaders have on many occasions solidified their predecessors stances.
Not just Europe, they didn't start a war, invade anyone or killed masses of people.
ZrvaDetector t1_j2e2k6a wrote
Reply to comment by amckaazli in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
They stopped being a militant group after the Cold War. If Kurdish parties like HDP which blatantly support PKK are accepted into the parliment, why wouldn't the nationalists be accepted?
ZrvaDetector t1_j2e1y4b wrote
Reply to comment by lmsoa971 in Former leader of Grey Wolves fatally shot in Ankara - Turkish Minute by LouisBalfour82
Because Grey wolves are a relatively new organisation that was backed up by NATO/GLADIO against Communist groups during Cold War. They also didn't invade Europe and put millions of people in ovens. Not really the same thing.
ZrvaDetector t1_j26sc51 wrote
Reply to comment by ReelyAndrard in Russian, Syrian, Turkish defence ministers meet in Moscow for first talks since 2011 by Saltedline
Sure but the point stands that Turkey didn't do something similiar despite being accused of being close to Russia.
ZrvaDetector t1_j264pmj wrote
Reply to comment by oscarboy333 in Russian, Syrian, Turkish defence ministers meet in Moscow for first talks since 2011 by Saltedline
It was Germans who sold information to Russia, not Turks.
ZrvaDetector t1_j25kpof wrote
Reply to comment by MrJenzie in Russian, Syrian, Turkish defence ministers meet in Moscow for first talks since 2011 by Saltedline
Would you rather have a NATO vs Russia, Iran war because of Syria?
ZrvaDetector t1_j1q3esv wrote
Reply to comment by IshyTheLegit in Turkey in talks with Russia about using Syrian airspace in potential operation by [deleted]
Sure he does this a lot and its annoying, but at least some of the people he calls terrorists are, objectively speaking, terrorists. PKK for example.
ZrvaDetector t1_j1o5wx6 wrote
Reply to comment by Odd_Entertainment629 in Turkey in talks with Russia about using Syrian airspace in potential operation by [deleted]
Fun fact: everyone you don't like are, in fact, not terrorists.
ZrvaDetector t1_j1mjp1l wrote
Reply to comment by Kreislauf in Turkey in talks with Russia about using Syrian airspace in potential operation by [deleted]
No it's just a NATO country that wants to protect its border negotiating with Russia to avoid a potential escalation.
ZrvaDetector t1_j1mjgz6 wrote
Reply to comment by skeetmonster69 in Turkey in talks with Russia about using Syrian airspace in potential operation by [deleted]
The US doesn't control the airspace in Northern Syria and Turkey isn't asking permission to use the airspace. In fact, American aircrafts flying in Syria mostly take off from Turkey, İncirlik and thus need Turkish permission to operate.
>The difference is when Russia and the US do it they are basically saying we are here dont fuck with us and we wont fuck with you
It's literally the same situation. Turkey and Russia directly clashed in Syria several times though they mostly just target each other's proxies.
>Turkey is also in the middle of delaying Finland and Sweden from joining NATO for BS political reasons.
Both had arms embargoes against Turkey and have only now started to ease them. Why the hell would Turkey welcome countries that sanction into an alliance where Turkish troops would be forced to fight for them in case of a Russian attack when they don't treat Turkey like an ally at all?
ZrvaDetector t1_jecbvgj wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Turkey ratifies Finland’s NATO membership by For_All_Humanity
It won't be ratified anytime soon. Sweden is actually bit unpopular in Turkey. Finland was not. They applied together so Finland got some collateral until they seperated their application process.