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aboutsider t1_j6cl7ub wrote

Reply to comment by Cohomology_ in Any protests/demonstrations planned? by [deleted]

No, we know those names because BLM organizations have made sure to keep those names near the surface. That didn't just happen because of "the media". It happened because one very loud and influential organization who used the media made it happen. As much as I see white folks bitching about how no one cares about police shootings of white people, I never see them do anything but bitch about it. You don't even know what's going on in the news but feel utterly convinced that you're some expert on how the media is tricking us with racism! Hahaha!

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aboutsider t1_j6cj7oq wrote

Reply to comment by Sankara_Connolly2020 in School students in Sq Hill by soparklion

Yes, those are exactly the statistics to which I'm referring. They show marital and living status but don't actually detail parental involvement or family strength. Do you have stats on that?

Um, ok? I do too. And, I dunno what kind of organizations you belong to or people you associate with but all the leftists I know are working class. And, they may be extreme but they don't just talk. They're very active on all fronts. Sucks that you've only been surrounded by lazy ass elitists but you shouldn't assume that's representative of the whole.

And here you have proven my point-- your making some pretty prejudiced assumptions about the intent of those commenting on racist language. You ignore that it's racist or classist so you can scold leftists about taking some moral high ground and why this makes them political losers. You're cool with letting that racist shit be said because the thing which you find really objectionable is your perception that leftists are nothing but virtue signaling elitists. Which doesn't even make a whole lot of sense-- what political side doesn't take a moral high ground and virtue signal and scold those who don't follow it? Does that mean that no side will ever achieve an effective political majority?

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aboutsider t1_j636hfr wrote

Reply to comment by Sankara_Connolly2020 in School students in Sq Hill by soparklion

I think you might need to explain the "decline of the black family". I've heard similar things said but it seems to be based on perceptions rather than reality. For instance, the notion that black fathers are typically absent is based on the fact that black parents are less likely to be married. But being married does not a family make.

Honestly, it seems like you're basing all of this off of how you see people respond on social media or in public forums. I'm not sure that that's the best method of determining the nuances of anyone's political position. You're taking the loudest, most extreme voices and using that to get a feel for what the left as a whole believes or thinks. I'm not sure I agree that what you've described is a good representation of the left.

Also, I think you might be ignoring the fact that some of those people being called names are actually saying shit that is racist, classist, and ageist. You can sincerely want to protect your neighborhood while doing all those things. In fact, wanting to "protect your neighborhood" can often make one more tribalistic and insular. I think it's important to point out those prejudices when we see them. I think most people are just too deluded or ashamed to see and admit that they harbor those prejudices.

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aboutsider t1_j5yb00h wrote

Reply to comment by Sankara_Connolly2020 in School students in Sq Hill by soparklion

Where do you see leftists ignoring this reality? I see folks on the left side of the political spectrum talk about this stuff all the time-- the causes and solutions. They mention a lot of the stuff that you mention, in fact. Can you explain ceding the narrative to conservatives?

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