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actualtext t1_jatacvw wrote

The cost would be higher if the person needed to have either the NYPD and/or EMS called on them and then delivered to an ER potentially. Easy to forget but there's a lot of money being wasted when these ODs happens and require other city resources. These sites are probably much more effective when you start comparing all those factors.

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actualtext t1_j9kxup1 wrote

Specialized schools are still public schools. Can't speak for special need schools because I'm not sure what those are. But I imagine they fall under the same umbrella and same rules as all public schools. Charter schools do not abide by the same rules.

Separating students isn't the issue. Using tax dollars to fund a separate school system that doesn't play by the same rules is the problem.

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actualtext t1_j9i2ts3 wrote

Because it creates a situation where you are taking an unequal amount of tax funds but leaving public schools to deal with the undesired students. The situation will never get better for public schools. Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying you need to just throw more money at public schools and get worse results but this isn't going to improve things at all for public schools.

If the argument is that charter schools are better because they aren't government run then let them play the same rules as government run schools do.

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actualtext t1_j9hzxja wrote

You're basically arguing we should keep all disruptive and violent students in public school then. Of course that creates a race to the bottom for public schools. It's an untenable situation for them. Now public schools have less funds and an even higher concentration of undesired students. The results will never get better.

I'm speaking as someone who was a product of the city public school system. I, and many others, came out just fine and were able to take advantage of what few resources were available in my public school.

If the issue are disruptive students then those students should be dealt with a taken out of the regular student population to be placed in specialized classes. That can all exist within the same public school system.

Either completely eliminate public schools and force charters to accept all students they are zoned in or don't have charters at all. This two school system is bullshit and a waste of tax payer money.

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actualtext t1_j9huc6h wrote

I'd be in support for more charter schools if they had to abide by the exact same union standards and rules that public schools have to abide by.

For example, charter schools shouldn't get a choice in rejecting students, etc. Otherwise you basically end up in a situation where teachers in charter schools get paid less with worst benefits and charter schools get to reject students that they deem will bring the school down academically. It creates a completely unfair situation for public schools that will simply spiral down.

I don't quite understand why this is deemed acceptable use of tax dollars. Why can't the state look at the issues with public schools and address them appropriately?

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actualtext t1_j340rwv wrote

I definitely don't agree with this point of view. People shouldn't have to leave a profession simply because their employer doesn't want to meet or compromise on employee demands for real concerns and issues afflicting them.

Imo private unions should be completely be able to strike. Public unions I'm a bit conflicted on. I feel like employee rights and pay issues should be codified into law and should be given to all public employees.

But these aren't public employees, these are private employees and in your point of view it seems that the employer should have all say and that makes no sense to me. Completely tilts negotiating one way in favor of the employer. Why would it be OK for Starbucks or Amazon employees to strike but not nurses? Patients arent being impacted. Alternative arrangements are being made by the hospitals should they not reach an agreement. Other hospitals exist too. It's being handled as professionally as possible and they've been negotiating for a long time as well.

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