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blueSGL t1_ix813x6 wrote
Reply to comment by footurist in Metaculus community prediction for "Date Weakly General AI is Publicly Known" has dropped to Oct 26, 2027 by maxtility
now to be true AGI it needs to be efficient.
What's the next 'god of the gaps' you are going to move to after that?
blueSGL t1_ix80q3q wrote
Reply to comment by Evil_Patriarch in Metaculus community prediction for "Date Weakly General AI is Publicly Known" has dropped to Oct 26, 2027 by maxtility
exactly, why would an AI with agency be good for anybody?
Something that can appear to have agency when required for the task would be far more preferable.
blueSGL t1_ix4n90v wrote
Reply to comment by UniversalMomentum in 2023 predictions by ryusan8989
I see image generation as an easy 'foot in the door', something that can be played with locally that will get people into the space that was never interested in any sort of AI/ML before. That's the true boon of this sort of tech going out there it will be helping with other advancements just not directly.
blueSGL t1_ix1jt1d wrote
Reply to comment by onyxengine in 2023 predictions by ryusan8989
how many times this year did we see an image gen model released only to be swiftly followed up with a different company showing off theirs?
What makes people think that GPT4 won't be like that and one of the others being better in some aspect or another.
blueSGL t1_iwn3yj7 wrote
Reply to comment by many-such-cases in A typical thought process by Kaarssteun
Yes, a good movie is one that is a fun ride that I'm either not taken out of by a glaring plot hole or if you prefer plot convenience whilst watching or shortly after when thinking about it. A solid script is the most important thing in a movie and it seems to be the one aspect given the least amount of thought. Endings are another one, would I read more Stephen King novels if an AI was sure to spruce them up and give them a satisfying ending. You betcha.
Also good job on the arm chair psychology I'm sure you'll go far dismissing people with other takes on things as 'broken' I don't hang my identity on the media I consume.
>Everyone wants to leave a legacy behind, and the presence of AI limiting human achievement will leave a void of purpose in us
Most people don't leave a legacy behind, go a couple of generations back and if you are lucky you'll be a name someone reads in a report that 23 and me sends out. "Legacy Building" is a failure for the vast majority of humans that have ever lived (if you don't count basic reproduction, something so common in nature it hardly is worth mentioning) Legacy is the remit of the rich and famous and If you look hard enough at your heroes there will be some skeletons in the closet, they just so happened to be good at X that you know them for. Why should legacy be the linchpin of an argument for AI devaluing life is beyond me (because I'm not celebrity obsessed or a starfucker)
blueSGL t1_iwmg46h wrote
Reply to comment by many-such-cases in A typical thought process by Kaarssteun
Why? Would I prefer to watch a movie with a consistent script, zero plot holes or one lovingly made by humans that requires reshoots desperate fixes in editing and god knows how many man hours to remove the buttholes or pixel fucked explosions to get the reflections looking just right? packaged up with a trailer that either gives too much away or is deceiving in editing promising a much greater experience than the one that is delivered. Give me the machine created version each and every time.
Same with songs I don't listen to them to connect with other humans, I do it because they are entertaining patterned structures that some people happen to be better at creating than others, why wouldn't I want an endless library constantly generated that delivers the perfect emotional response that I want at that moment.
Why should I care that instead of having to wait for the brownian motion to churn someone out at the far end of a bell curve, spend years honing their craft and then I get to listen to something for 10 seconds on spotify and skip to the next one, rather than have that just generated. and the person can instead spend their time working on something they enjoy, not for money but because they enjoy the process.
Why on earth are 'legends' required in any way, and having a lack of them make my experience worse? I really don't get it.
blueSGL t1_iwlh1in wrote
Reply to comment by many-such-cases in A typical thought process by Kaarssteun
> where I can never find unique personal purpose or fulfillment in a hobby because a machine can do it better or faster
What??
Hobbies are done because people enjoy the activity and fruits of their labor, either the activity has no path to profit (Money goes in > Enjoyment comes out) or when these activities do go up against professionals doing the same activity with much higher quality tools, experience and better 'final product' the hobbyist chooses to do them anyway.
People play instruments even though they will never make it into a symphony orchestra, do wood working who will never be a named brand furniture designer.
People tend gardens, race RC cars, go paint balling, rock climbing, do knitting, collect stamps, watch trains, watch birds, draw, paint, mess with electronics, build sculptures, go fishing, golfing, cosplay, etc...
For the times where there actually are professional equivalents to the hobby, swap those out for an AI and I really don't see the difference.
blueSGL t1_iwj4xs8 wrote
blueSGL t1_iwict3h wrote
It seems to get a little funky depending on the prompt.
https://galactica.org/?max_new_tokens=400&prompt=Electromagnetism+
Also it includes what looks like image captions that could have been stripped prior to training
> "The electromagnetic spectrum, showing the major categories of electromagnetic radiation."
Edit: I can also see what it means by "hallucinate text" (using a topic I'm very familiar with)
https://galactica.org/?prompt=rigging+in+autodesk+maya&max_new_tokens=400
you can certainly set limits and the rest but most of these don't have a dedicated button, or if there is a button it's burred inside multiple menus that you need to be guided too.
But I'm still amazed at just how good this is on a topic that is not strictly 'scientific'
Edit 2: ok I'm going to stop playing with this now because the temptation to shitpost is becoming too damn high.
https://galactica.org/?prompt=the+correct+way+to+bake+bread+&max_new_tokens=400
blueSGL t1_iwfp1u3 wrote
Reply to comment by Emory_C in AI Drew This Gorgeous Comic Series, But You'd Never Know It by rpaul9578
again, it would have to work, the current economic system is designed around a certain percentage of the population being able to afford goods and services. Start removing a chunk of that each year and there won't be any choice, there is not suddenly going to be more jobs to hoover those people up.
Having a lot of intelligent former workers unable to pay bills and willing to fight for a common cause is a dangerous mix, anyone who is a student of history can tell you how quickly such a thing can go bad and governments (esp ones that likely have much better AI modeling) will decide to pay people a basic income than deal with the alternative.
There will be pressure to do this both from the newly unemployed and the companies with shrinking bottom lines. Whatever solution is conceived would need to satisfies both. That may be UBI or a similar scheme. A correction of this sort would be the only option to avoid major disruption to the capitalist system. Something that would be inevitable without intervention.
blueSGL t1_iwerajz wrote
Reply to comment by Emory_C in AI Drew This Gorgeous Comic Series, But You'd Never Know It by rpaul9578
>So, what we'll see is redundant humans with no purpose
this has been covered repeatedly on here, If a % of the work force each year gets replaced by AI (either by augmenting so supply outstrips demand or flat out replacing) UBI or a similar scheme will be forced to be enacted by every government to prevent the economy collapsing and wide scale riots.
There is no reason to produce products and run services via automation if there is no longer a large enough consumer base to buy them so entire business sectors will lobby for UBI
blueSGL t1_iwd2fdu wrote
Reply to comment by HalfbrotherFabio in AI Drew This Gorgeous Comic Series, But You'd Never Know It by rpaul9578
We are already in a society where you don't know the names of the vast majority of people involved with anything you have sitting around you right now, who designed your chair or desk or monitor, what are the names of the people that picked or processed the food you are going to eat this evening.
Is there some sort of additional worth that part of the process was done by human hands instead automated by machinery?
There seems to be a weird fetishization of hardship that some people have where it needs to exist in order for people to be able to enjoy themselves, they need enjoyment as a break from the drudgery of modern life and if it was given to them all the time it would not be as special.
That I feel shows a lack of imagination. In a world where you can do whatever you want you can take up multiple hobbies, get tired of doing X you can do Y, or Z or A or, AXX or whatever. A lifetime of activities you choose that are rich in challenge and differences.
blueSGL t1_iwcyphh wrote
Reply to comment by ImoJenny in I'm starting to think yes plug me in by [deleted]
you sure you are in the right reply chain, I thought we were talking the matrix (and it's been some time since reading Stranger in a Strange Land but I thought that was a guy coming to earth from mars with super human powers)
blueSGL t1_iwcsnag wrote
Reply to comment by ImoJenny in I'm starting to think yes plug me in by [deleted]
wasn't the initial idea to use people as processors but, due to when the movie came out, that idea was not as easy for the general public to grok ?
blueSGL t1_iwcru4f wrote
Reply to comment by HalfbrotherFabio in AI Drew This Gorgeous Comic Series, But You'd Never Know It by rpaul9578
Look at hobbies, they are done because people enjoy the activity and fruits of their labor, normally these activities go up against 'professionals' doing the same thing and don't produce as good results but people still enjoy them and do them anyway.
With a lot of hobbies it's Money goes in > Enjoyment comes out. not Time goes in > Money comes out.
Why won't post scarcity just be everyone finding those activities and doing them?
blueSGL t1_iw3nn09 wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in AI movement to 3D models: Anything World raises $7.5m for its AI animation tool by BinyaminDelta
an autorigger like mGear or Advanced Skeleton + an afternoon of weight painting using ngSkinTools will get you comparable rigs to what's been shown.
The trickiest thing to rig is the face (either joint or blendshape based) and or get a full sim muscle setup going. Neither of these are shown.
For something low poly, stylized and simple like the fox that is shown it's no time at all with current tooling.
blueSGL t1_ivyuyb1 wrote
Reply to comment by BinyaminDelta in AI movement to 3D models: Anything World raises $7.5m for its AI animation tool by BinyaminDelta
That's an oversimplification of what they are doing. If it was direct vertex manipulation for animating the mesh without any intervening rig structure (like how alembics work) your description would be be more on the money.
blueSGL t1_ivyo75p wrote
Reply to comment by Akimbo333 in AI movement to 3D models: Anything World raises $7.5m for its AI animation tool by BinyaminDelta
looks like an autorigger (automatically create the joint chains and attach them to the model), animation retargeter (take existing animations from one joint chain topology and apply to another joint chain topology) and motion interpolation system (seamlessly blend between canned animations so going from a walk to a run does not look janky)
and they seem to be rolling things out per object class, currently they do wheeled vehicles and quadrupedal animals.
blueSGL t1_ivvarfl wrote
Reply to comment by AdditionalPizza in Let's assume Google, Siri, Alexa, etc. start using large language models in 2023; What impact do you think this will have on the general public/everyday life? Will it be revolutionary? by AdditionalPizza
I think companies are going to be scared to be the first out of the gate with LLM tech for the public. Heavily neutered versions will going out first. Everyone is going to be scared of "personal assistant writes N word poem"* or similar ridiculous gawker type headlines. Some people are going to take access to such models as a challenge to create those headlines. This is why I say it will be an upgrade on what we have now but will still have massive limitations in the name of 'safety' even though unfettered models will do much much more.
This is why I think it will first 'go large' in business use cases where they can really put the blinkers on the thing and instruct employees that if it comes out with something incorrect, it's expected, it's 'beta' and to follow a procedure if it happens.
There will be a rise in very narrowly targeted walled garden services with an LLM back end but I doubt they will be used for anything 'general' because scale and scope of the 'safety' problem will prevent it.
Edit: * shortened the title, no news outlet would go with something as verbose as "the personal assistant that writes poems about the N words" that would be a sub heading at best.
blueSGL t1_ivusj22 wrote
Reply to Let's assume Google, Siri, Alexa, etc. start using large language models in 2023; What impact do you think this will have on the general public/everyday life? Will it be revolutionary? by AdditionalPizza
>Do you think it will simply be a novelty at first and settle into society as just another tech thing that doesn't really have a huge effect on the average person's life
most tech is this, look at all the stuff people use now, generally it's just slid into our lives and it's just there. No real fanfair and people would only take active notice if it gets removed.
People already talk to their phones and 'smart home' devices it'd just be bumping up the abilities a notch.
I suspect big noticeable change will come from the business space where [job]+LLM out competes people just doing [job] and then everywhere will want to have it and train people to use it just to stay competitive. There will be think pieces written about this and people complaining and a spate of articles where people find that AI told them to do something and they did it without thinking (like sat nav and dirt roads with unthinking drivers)
I mean the one that really gets me about image (and now video) generation is not that it's happened, it's the amount of critique leveled against it, here is this magic black box calling forth image (and video) from the void and all people do is say 'well it can't do fingers' 'well the composition is not that great' 'well the temporal consistency is not there yet' when the tech itself is close to magic and is only going to get better. The amount of people thinking (and complaining) about 'now' rather than seeing where this is going to be in a few years.
blueSGL t1_ivbqiey wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in In the face on the Anthropocene by apple_achia
> Pain and pleasure are just the beginning.
we have such sights to show you. (I couldn't resist)
blueSGL t1_iv80z8y wrote
Reply to comment by hugosebas in Is Twitter Secretly "Going AI"? by MythOfMyself
> what did he see on Twitter that is worth spending 40 Billion dollars?
as far as I can remember all his financials (and the world's in general were way better when he put the offer in) problem with locking something like that in and then the wind changes is you can be on the hook for comparatively a lot more because the sale price does not change but the economic climate has.
It really looked like he wanted to go to court to get out of the deal, discovery started and they allowed in communications that would have meant he has to pay anyway because of what was said, so he dropped it all and paid up.
blueSGL t1_iv1vv00 wrote
Reply to AR with deformation tracking, texture swapping, lighting estimation @60fps on iPad Pro M2 by Shelfrock77
Now passers by on the street can be plastered with advertising on their clothing that's personalized to you! (for this you will get a discount on the headset)
blueSGL t1_iux9hew wrote
Reply to comment by SWATSgradyBABY in Scientists Create Glow In The Dark Plants That Could Replace Streetlights In The Future by sopadebombillas
it'd be infrastructure costs. If you can get lights that direct light correctly but are not slot in replacements and need to replace/retofit the attachments/poles they will not get used as they cost more money.
and the above holds true if there are slot in replacements but they cost more money.
The solution needs to be cheap and easy to implement otherwise it will face massive barriers to being done.
blueSGL t1_ix9qshc wrote
Reply to comment by Drunken_F00l in When they make AGI, how long will they be able to keep it a secret? by razorbeamz
>Here's some words from AI that try
That's not trying.
Trying would be understanding the human condition and modulate the message in a way that would not be dismissed out of hand regardless of what 'conditioning' people have received.
It would be micro targeted to segmented audiences and slowly erode the barriers between them. Not grandiose overarching sentiments where you already need to agree somewhat with them and (more importantly) with that mode of thinking about the world.